Comments on: We’ll be Flooded With Immigrants! http://poliblogger.com/?p=10000 A rough draft of my thoughts... Tue, 16 Nov 2024 04:25:28 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: LaurenceB http://poliblogger.com/?p=10000&cpage=1#comment-637857 LaurenceB Sun, 21 May 2024 15:04:16 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=10000#comment-637857 I heard this the other day on the Laura Ingraham show. But, the number she was touting was not 93 million, but 193 million! Obviously, I had the same reaction you did (being a sane person who knows the population of Mexico). If you look at the "study" from the Heritage Foundation you can see what Laura Ingraham was talking about - according to the "study", the worst case scenario is indeed 193 million! While the projected figure is 100 million (now revised down to 66 million after recent changes to the bill). Needless to say, these numbers are absurd. Here's what the White House had to say about the Heritage Foundation estimate: <blockquote> Setting The Record Straight: Heritage Foundation Report Overestimates Legal Immigration Increase Under Senate Immigration Bill A Heritage Foundation Report Claims The Hagel-Martinez Senate Immigration Bill (S. 2611) Would Lead To An Additional 84 Million New Legal Immigrants Over 20 Years. (Robert Rector, "Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants Over the Next Twenty Years," Heritage Foundation, 5/15/06, Available At: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm) But A Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Analysis Of The Hagel-Martinez Bill Found It Would Increase The U.S. Population By 8 Million People Over The First 10 Years - A Fraction Of The Heritage Report's Claim. CBO's estimate is more consistent with most research on immigration issues. The Heritage Report also takes a static approach to the immigration issue, failing to adjust for any changes in immigration patterns over the next 20 years. The Heritage Foundation Report Overestimates The Number Of Immigrants For Three Reasons: 1. The Report Overestimates The Number Of Illegal Immigrants Who Become Legal Immigrants And Remain In The United States Permanently. 2. The Report Does Not Account For The Many Immigrants Who Will Later Choose To Emigrate From The United States. 3. The Report Counts Some New Immigrants Twice - First As Guest Workers And Then Again As Green Card Holders. 1. The Heritage Foundation Report Overestimates The Number Of Illegal Immigrants Who Would Be Legalized The Heritage Foundation Report Assumes That 10 Million Illegal Immigrants Would Be Legalized. (Robert Rector, "Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants Over the Next Twenty Years," Heritage Foundation, 5/15/06, Available At: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm) But The Report Overestimates The Senate Bill's Increase In The Number Of Illegal Immigrants Who Would Be Able To Stay Permanently In The United States. ¢ CBO Estimates That About 1 Million Illegal Immigrants Would Become Legal Permanent Residents (LPRs) Under Current Law - Not Because Of Hagel-Martinez. ¢ CBO Estimates That About One Third Of Illegal Immigrants Eligible For Legalization Under Hagel-Martinez Are Unlikely To Become Legal Permanent Residents. ¢ The Heritage Report Overestimates The Number Of Spouses And Children Brought Into The United States By Legalized Immigrants. The Heritage report assumes that 10 million illegal immigrants who become legalized would then bring an additional 6 million spouses and children into the United States. Since the number of legalized illegal immigrants is likely to be much smaller, however, there are likely to be fewer spouses and children. 2. The Heritage Foundation Report Wrongly Assumes That Immigrants Will Not Leave The Heritage Foundation Report Does Not Account For Emigration Out Of The United States. (Robert Rector, "Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants Over the Next Twenty Years," Heritage Foundation, 5/15/06, Available At: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm) Many Immigrants Later Emigrate From The United States - Emigration Rates May Be About 25 To 30 Percent. For instance, in estimating the fiscal impact of immigration, the National Research Council used an emigration rate of 30 percent. 3. The Heritage Foundation Report Double Counts Some Immigrants First As Guest Workers And Then As New Legal Permanent Residents In Its Estimate Of New Legal Immigrants, The Heritage Foundation Adds Its Prediction Of New Guest Workers To Its Prediction Of New Green Card Holders. The Heritage Foundation report claims that the guest worker program established under Hagel-Martinez would lead to about 44.6 million new guest workers and family members. It adds together this number and its estimate of an additional 18.6 million green cards as part of its overall estimate of the number of new immigrants. (Robert Rector, "Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants Over the Next Twenty Years," Heritage Foundation, 5/15/06, Available At: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm) But By Including Both Guest Workers And New Green Card Holders In Its Overall Estimate, The Heritage Report Counts Some New Immigrants Twice. The Heritage Foundation Report double-counts guest workers and family members who get green cards, first when they become guest workers and then a second time when they get a green card. </blockquote> I heard this the other day on the Laura Ingraham show. But, the number she was touting was not 93 million, but 193 million! Obviously, I had the same reaction you did (being a sane person who knows the population of Mexico).

If you look at the “study” from the Heritage Foundation you can see what Laura Ingraham was talking about – according to the “study”, the worst case scenario is indeed 193 million! While the projected figure is 100 million (now revised down to 66 million after recent changes to the bill). Needless to say, these numbers are absurd.

Here’s what the White House had to say about the Heritage Foundation estimate:

Setting The Record Straight:

Heritage Foundation Report Overestimates Legal Immigration Increase Under Senate Immigration Bill

A Heritage Foundation Report Claims The Hagel-Martinez Senate Immigration Bill (S. 2611) Would Lead To An Additional 84 Million New Legal Immigrants Over 20 Years. (Robert Rector, “Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants Over the Next Twenty Years,” Heritage Foundation, 5/15/06, Available At: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm)

But A Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Analysis Of The Hagel-Martinez Bill Found It Would Increase The U.S. Population By 8 Million People Over The First 10 Years – A Fraction Of The Heritage Report’s Claim. CBO’s estimate is more consistent with most research on immigration issues. The Heritage Report also takes a static approach to the immigration issue, failing to adjust for any changes in immigration patterns over the next 20 years.

The Heritage Foundation Report Overestimates The Number Of Immigrants For Three Reasons:

1. The Report Overestimates The Number Of Illegal Immigrants Who Become Legal Immigrants And Remain In The United States Permanently.

2. The Report Does Not Account For The Many Immigrants Who Will Later Choose To Emigrate From The United States.

3. The Report Counts Some New Immigrants Twice – First As Guest Workers And Then Again As Green Card Holders.

1. The Heritage Foundation Report Overestimates The Number Of Illegal Immigrants Who Would Be Legalized

The Heritage Foundation Report Assumes That 10 Million Illegal Immigrants Would Be Legalized. (Robert Rector, “Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants Over the Next Twenty Years,” Heritage Foundation, 5/15/06, Available At: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm)

But The Report Overestimates The Senate Bill’s Increase In The Number Of Illegal Immigrants Who Would Be Able To Stay Permanently In The United States.

¢ CBO Estimates That About 1 Million Illegal Immigrants Would Become Legal Permanent Residents (LPRs) Under Current Law – Not Because Of Hagel-Martinez.

¢ CBO Estimates That About One Third Of Illegal Immigrants Eligible For Legalization Under Hagel-Martinez Are Unlikely To Become Legal Permanent Residents.

¢ The Heritage Report Overestimates The Number Of Spouses And Children Brought Into The United States By Legalized Immigrants. The Heritage report assumes that 10 million illegal immigrants who become legalized would then bring an additional 6 million spouses and children into the United States. Since the number of legalized illegal immigrants is likely to be much smaller, however, there are likely to be fewer spouses and children.

2. The Heritage Foundation Report Wrongly Assumes That Immigrants Will Not Leave

The Heritage Foundation Report Does Not Account For Emigration Out Of The United States. (Robert Rector, “Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants Over the Next Twenty Years,” Heritage Foundation, 5/15/06, Available At: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm)

Many Immigrants Later Emigrate From The United States – Emigration Rates May Be About 25 To 30 Percent. For instance, in estimating the fiscal impact of immigration, the National Research Council used an emigration rate of 30 percent.

3. The Heritage Foundation Report Double Counts Some Immigrants First As Guest Workers And Then As New Legal Permanent Residents

In Its Estimate Of New Legal Immigrants, The Heritage Foundation Adds Its Prediction Of New Guest Workers To Its Prediction Of New Green Card Holders. The Heritage Foundation report claims that the guest worker program established under Hagel-Martinez would lead to about 44.6 million new guest workers and family members. It adds together this number and its estimate of an additional 18.6 million green cards as part of its overall estimate of the number of new immigrants. (Robert Rector, “Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants Over the Next Twenty Years,” Heritage Foundation, 5/15/06, Available At: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm)

But By Including Both Guest Workers And New Green Card Holders In Its Overall Estimate, The Heritage Report Counts Some New Immigrants Twice. The Heritage Foundation Report double-counts guest workers and family members who get green cards, first when they become guest workers and then a second time when they get a green card.

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By: Alan Kellogg http://poliblogger.com/?p=10000&cpage=1#comment-636300 Alan Kellogg Sun, 21 May 2024 05:26:59 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=10000#comment-636300 So, in ten years Mexico empties out, with everybody moving here. You know what that means? That's right, more territory we could settle and claim for the U.S.A. So, in ten years Mexico empties out, with everybody moving here. You know what that means? That’s right, more territory we could settle and claim for the U.S.A.

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