Comments on: You’re so Vain, You Probably Think this Report is about You (or, so Paranoid…) http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539 A rough draft of my thoughts... Thu, 08 Dec 2024 05:27:48 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: HOTAiR: Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real | Fire Janet Napolitano http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377588 HOTAiR: Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real | Fire Janet Napolitano Fri, 24 Apr 2024 02:28:59 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377588 [...] PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » You’re so Vain, You Probably Think this Report is about ... [...] [...] PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » You’re so Vain, You Probably Think this Report is about … [...]

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By: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Yet More Evidence of What Ails Contemporary Conservatism http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377451 PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Yet More Evidence of What Ails Contemporary Conservatism Wed, 22 Apr 2024 02:31:48 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377451 [...] methods”? This is a rather odd position. It reminds me of the bizarre identification by some right-ward bloggers with the DHS’s memo about potential right-wing extremism (indeed, some have gone so far as to [...] [...] methods”? This is a rather odd position. It reminds me of the bizarre identification by some right-ward bloggers with the DHS’s memo about potential right-wing extremism (indeed, some have gone so far as to [...]

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By: Weekend Opinionator: Tea Parties, to the Extreme - The Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377341 Weekend Opinionator: Tea Parties, to the Extreme - The Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com Sat, 18 Apr 2024 02:01:35 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377341 [...] L. Taylor at PoliBlog, however, thinks this is just scaremongering: The key phrase in the DHS definition is “dedicated to a single issue” (note single). It is [...] [...] L. Taylor at PoliBlog, however, thinks this is just scaremongering: The key phrase in the DHS definition is “dedicated to a single issue” (note single). It is [...]

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By: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Want a Reasonable Response to the DHS Report? http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377334 PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Want a Reasonable Response to the DHS Report? Fri, 17 Apr 2024 19:24:31 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377334 [...] DHS report that was the focus of so much discussion earlier in the week (and that I blogged about here and [...] [...] DHS report that was the focus of so much discussion earlier in the week (and that I blogged about here and [...]

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By: The Pundits Who Cried “Wolf” « The Alabama Moderate http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377333 The Pundits Who Cried “Wolf” « The Alabama Moderate Fri, 17 Apr 2024 18:51:33 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377333 [...] Or not. That one was debunked in a rare moment of actual journalism by Fox News, of all things. [...] [...] Or not. That one was debunked in a rare moment of actual journalism by Fox News, of all things. [...]

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By: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Meanwhile, Back to Serious Problems with Governmental Power http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377279 PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Meanwhile, Back to Serious Problems with Governmental Power Thu, 16 Apr 2024 13:38:47 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377279 [...] is amazing, by the way, that a lot of folks will get up in arms over the suggestion that the federal government is concerned about right-wing hate groups seem not [...] [...] is amazing, by the way, that a lot of folks will get up in arms over the suggestion that the federal government is concerned about right-wing hate groups seem not [...]

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By: Hume's Ghost http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377251 Hume's Ghost Wed, 15 Apr 2024 20:36:57 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377251 'I can’t understand why *anybody* would consider a line from Pam Gellar as somehow credible.' True that. I think the reasonable response for anyone who looks at her blog and see the shrieking hysterical insanity leaping off the page is to dismiss her as an outrageous kook. Except last night she was one of the guests on Fox News' "Red Eye" with Greg Gutfield. And she previously was granted an interview with UN ambassador John Bolton. When kooks like Gellar are being promoted by a major news network and high level gov't official we have a serious problem for the state of political discourse. ‘I can’t understand why *anybody* would consider a line from Pam Gellar as somehow credible.’

True that. I think the reasonable response for anyone who looks at her blog and see the shrieking hysterical insanity leaping off the page is to dismiss her as an outrageous kook.

Except last night she was one of the guests on Fox News’ “Red Eye” with Greg Gutfield. And she previously was granted an interview with UN ambassador John Bolton.

When kooks like Gellar are being promoted by a major news network and high level gov’t official we have a serious problem for the state of political discourse.

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By: Polimom http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377239 Polimom Wed, 15 Apr 2024 14:37:42 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377239 "Everyone keeps picking that particular line from Pam Gellar." I can't understand why *anybody* would consider a line from Pam Gellar as somehow credible. Kinda goes along with the level of insanity, generally. “Everyone keeps picking that particular line from Pam Gellar.”

I can’t understand why *anybody* would consider a line from Pam Gellar as somehow credible. Kinda goes along with the level of insanity, generally.

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By: Hume's Ghost http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377225 Hume's Ghost Wed, 15 Apr 2024 05:29:54 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377225 I read the report, and it reads like a political science text describing "right-wing" extremism would read. I agree that there is a legitimate concern about the criminalization of certain political beliefs, but I, unlike Malkin and the other members of the hissy fit, am opposed to numerous aspects of the national surveillance state which are prone to abuse in the first place. Everyone keeps picking that particular line from Pam Gellar. I find this curious, since I found this line to be even more absurd: <blockquote>It is the fascist blueprint to create a police state and legalize gulags. This is not a spoof. This is Obama's "civilian army's" MOB.</blockquote> Hey, do you think Michelle Malkin is some kind of super-duper deep cover plant performing some kind of Sokal Hoax? Here's what she said back in '05 when it was disclosed that the FBI had been engaging in surveillance of non-violent groups http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin072005.html3 <blockquote>Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Civil liberties activists, anti-war organizers, eco-militants, and animal rights operatives are in a fright over news that the nefarious FBI is watching them. Why on earth would the government be worried about harmless liberal grannies, innocent vegetarians, unassuming rainforest lovers and other "peaceful groups" simply exercising their First Amendment rights? Let me remind you of some very good reasons. [Malkin lists her "reasons" which have nothing to do with the actual surveillance targets, but are meant to demonstrate "the left" are dangerous subversives.] The FBI's job is to take threats to our domestic security seriously and act on them before catastrophe strikes. Given the suspect words and actions of left-wing groups over the last several years, "dissent is patriotic" is a bromide no responsible agent can swallow blindly. Tolerating the unfettered free speech of saboteurs has threatened enough lives already.</blockquote> This has to be some kind world record for hypocrisy. I read the report, and it reads like a political science text describing “right-wing” extremism would read. I agree that there is a legitimate concern about the criminalization of certain political beliefs, but I, unlike Malkin and the other members of the hissy fit, am opposed to numerous aspects of the national surveillance state which are prone to abuse in the first place.

Everyone keeps picking that particular line from Pam Gellar. I find this curious, since I found this line to be even more absurd:

It is the fascist blueprint to create a police state and legalize gulags. This is not a spoof. This is Obama’s “civilian army’s” MOB.

Hey, do you think Michelle Malkin is some kind of super-duper deep cover plant performing some kind of Sokal Hoax? Here’s what she said back in ’05 when it was disclosed that the FBI had been engaging in surveillance of non-violent groups

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin072005.html3

Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Civil liberties activists, anti-war organizers, eco-militants, and animal rights operatives are in a fright over news that the nefarious FBI is watching them. Why on earth would the government be worried about harmless liberal grannies, innocent vegetarians, unassuming rainforest lovers and other “peaceful groups” simply exercising their First Amendment rights?

Let me remind you of some very good reasons.

[Malkin lists her "reasons" which have nothing to do with the actual surveillance targets, but are meant to demonstrate "the left" are dangerous subversives.]

The FBI’s job is to take threats to our domestic security seriously and act on them before catastrophe strikes. Given the suspect words and actions of left-wing groups over the last several years, “dissent is patriotic” is a bromide no responsible agent can swallow blindly. Tolerating the unfettered free speech of saboteurs has threatened enough lives already.

This has to be some kind world record for hypocrisy.

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By: Max Lybbert http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539&cpage=1#comment-1377212 Max Lybbert Tue, 14 Apr 2024 23:34:07 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=15539#comment-1377212 This sentence of mine might be too cheeky: <blockquote>I think it’s silly to define "rightwing extremist groups" as groups that are mostly "hate oriente" (page 2, I guess this is in comparison to violent leftwing groups that are mostly love oriented)</blockquote> The point is that most violent groups are hate oriented in some way. Frankly, it's hard to imagine any other possibility. Which, by the way, is why I think hate crime legislation is silly. "You brutally murdered the victim and torched his house, but we think the motivation was a long-standing grudge and not outright hate." This sentence of mine might be too cheeky:

I think it’s silly to define “rightwing extremist groups” as groups that are mostly “hate oriente” (page 2, I guess this is in comparison to violent leftwing groups that are mostly love oriented)

The point is that most violent groups are hate oriented in some way. Frankly, it’s hard to imagine any other possibility.

Which, by the way, is why I think hate crime legislation is silly. “You brutally murdered the victim and torched his house, but we think the motivation was a long-standing grudge and not outright hate.”

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