Comments on: The Colorado EC Vote http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950 A rough draft of my thoughts... Mon, 08 May 2024 19:04:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.2 by: j.sykes http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-20887 Wed, 03 Nov 2024 02:09:25 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-20887 Let's hope for the best! Let’s hope for the best!

]]> by: Rodney Dill http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-19976 Sun, 31 Oct 2024 15:12:51 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-19976 I think its a bad idea, but it is a states rights issue and if a state decides to split their electoral vote, I believe that that is their right. A large MINORITY party opinion in CO could be that it is a good idea as the electoral votes for their state would usually not go their way. Overall I think the Electoral college system is good for states rights and influence. How much time, attention, and promises would Kerry be spending on Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, etc.. if all he had to do was get more popular votes from New York and California or other more populace states. I think most people that are pro-popular vote only overlook this factor. I think its a bad idea, but it is a states rights issue and if a state decides to split their electoral vote, I believe that that is their right.
A large MINORITY party opinion in CO could be that it is a good idea as the electoral votes for their state would usually not go their way.

Overall I think the Electoral college system is good for states rights and influence. How much time, attention, and promises would Kerry be spending on Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, etc.. if all he had to do was get more popular votes from New York and California or other more populace states. I think most people that are pro-popular vote only overlook this factor.

]]> by: Remy Logan http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17916 Wed, 13 Oct 2024 02:37:21 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17916 Voters who sacrifice local needs for their national party will be very disappointed in the end. Ask the African-Americans who keep voting for the D. Voters who sacrifice local needs for their national party will be very disappointed in the end. Ask the African-Americans who keep voting for the D.

]]> by: Chrees http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17913 Wed, 13 Oct 2024 00:02:40 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17913 The "solution" being proposed appears to me to be certain people fighting the last war (election). The “solution” being proposed appears to me to be certain people fighting the last war (election).

]]> by: JS http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17910 Tue, 12 Oct 2024 20:47:32 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17910 The demographics are trending in both directions simultaneously. To understand that (in terms of the macro trend) one would have to understand the differences between areas like Boulder, Denver, Aspen, et al and say, Colorado Springs, Grand Junction, Ft Collins, etc. Last decade we saw many arrive here from Calfifornia, which turned the dem vote up a notch. It was still trending red overall (statewide) until recently, but you must also understand that independents here outpoll both parties and right now- there's dissatisfaction with the Iraq war. Whatever the outcome of 04, I don't see a lasting affect from it. I think all things considered, the trend is still slightly towards red. The demographics are trending in both directions simultaneously. To understand that (in terms of the macro trend) one would have to understand the differences between areas like Boulder, Denver, Aspen, et al and say, Colorado Springs, Grand Junction, Ft Collins, etc.

Last decade we saw many arrive here from Calfifornia, which turned the dem vote up a notch.

It was still trending red overall (statewide) until recently, but you must also understand that independents here outpoll both parties and right now- there’s dissatisfaction with the Iraq war.

Whatever the outcome of 04, I don’t see a lasting affect from it.

I think all things considered, the trend is still slightly towards red.

]]> by: Outside The Beltway http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17906 Tue, 12 Oct 2024 19:02:11 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17906 <strong>Beltway Traffic Jam</strong> The daily linkfest: Steven Taylor examines yet another reason to deplore the Colorado Electoral College initiative. Bill Hawkins has a Symposium On The Blogosphere &#038; The Media. John Little is working on "a major new addition" to Blogs of War.... Beltway Traffic Jam
The daily linkfest:

Steven Taylor examines yet another reason to deplore the Colorado Electoral College initiative.
Bill Hawkins has a Symposium On The Blogosphere & The Media.
John Little is working on “a major new addition” to Blogs of War….

]]> by: John Lemon http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17902 Tue, 12 Oct 2024 18:58:29 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17902 Why is Colorado voting on the European Community? I thought it was a union now. I guess this signals the further demise of unions. This wouldn't happen if John Kerry was president. Why is Colorado voting on the European Community? I thought it was a union now. I guess this signals the further demise of unions.

This wouldn’t happen if John Kerry was president.

]]> by: Kyle Haight http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17898 Tue, 12 Oct 2024 17:37:32 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17898 I think of it as sacrificing their own state's individual electoral influence to benefit their preferred party nationally. If they think the state is trending GOP, then in the future they're looking at +9 GOP electoral college votes. But if they slip the amendment in before the GOP attains dominance, the likely division becomes +5 GOP, +4 DEM electoral college votes. Bad for Colorado's influence on national politics, but good for the Democratic party. I think of it as sacrificing their own state’s individual electoral influence to benefit their preferred party nationally. If they think the state is trending GOP, then in the future they’re looking at +9 GOP electoral college votes. But if they slip the amendment in before the GOP attains dominance, the likely division becomes +5 GOP, +4 DEM electoral college votes. Bad for Colorado’s influence on national politics, but good for the Democratic party.

]]> by: Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17896 Tue, 12 Oct 2024 17:21:04 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17896 Yes, but even if the state was quite competitve, only <i>one vote</i> would be contested. Unless the election was extremely tight, that 1 vote would not be worth the expenditure needed to procure it. Yes, but even if the state was quite competitve, only one vote would be contested. Unless the election was extremely tight, that 1 vote would not be worth the expenditure needed to procure it.

]]> by: Daniel Geffen http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17895 Tue, 12 Oct 2024 16:36:37 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=4950#comment-17895 Well, as I've argued <a href="http://geffen.blogspot.com/2004/06/electoral-college-reform.html">here</a>, it all depends on what Coloradans expect about partisan trends in their state. If Colorado is trending GOP (or Dem) in the longer term, the amendment would actually improve their electoral college leverage. If the state is expected to remain closely split, you are of course correct. There are conflicting opinions about CO demographics, but at least some observers see CO as trending red. Well, as I’ve argued here, it all depends on what Coloradans expect about partisan trends in their state. If Colorado is trending GOP (or Dem) in the longer term, the amendment would actually improve their electoral college leverage. If the state is expected to remain closely split, you are of course correct. There are conflicting opinions about CO demographics, but at least some observers see CO as trending red.

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