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]]> by: Richard Aubrey http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-23317 Wed, 10 Nov 2024 17:08:13 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-23317 As already described, the priority of the moral values issue is an artifact of the survey design. Had Iraq and Terror been aggregated, things would have been different. For now, though, it suits the democrats. They know that Bush owns the war on terror. They know that their party, and their candidate, have been all over the map on the GWOT, to the extent that nobody has a clue what they really think. There is nothing to explain about that, or at least not until they have some kind of a consensus. The moral values issue, on the other hand, came along just fine. Since nobody knows what it is, democrats can insist on what it is--disreputable--and insist that those who chose moral values are rotten and should stop voting republican or be thought of as homophobes or theocrat-wannabes. This sort of tactic does, from time to time, shut down the weaker sort in a public discussion but does little to influence behavior in a voting booth. Plus, the moral values issue isn't the big issue and as long as the democrats hang on it because it's convenient, the worse they'll do with what really matters to the voters. As already described, the priority of the moral values issue is an artifact of the survey design. Had Iraq and Terror been aggregated, things would have been different.

For now, though, it suits the democrats. They know that Bush owns the war on terror. They know that their party, and their candidate, have been all over the map on the GWOT, to the extent that nobody has a clue what they really think. There is nothing to explain about that, or at least not until they have some kind of a consensus.
The moral values issue, on the other hand, came along just fine. Since nobody knows what it is, democrats can insist on what it is–disreputable–and insist that those who chose moral values are rotten and should stop voting republican or be thought of as homophobes or theocrat-wannabes.
This sort of tactic does, from time to time, shut down the weaker sort in a public discussion but does little to influence behavior in a voting booth.
Plus, the moral values issue isn’t the big issue and as long as the democrats hang on it because it’s convenient, the worse they’ll do with what really matters to the voters.

]]> by: Who Can Really Say? http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22569 Wed, 10 Nov 2024 02:39:19 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22569 <strong>Kerry Lost Becaue of Michael Moore</strong> I haven't been writing much here post-election. Some of it is blogging exhaustion (and I know I hardly have much excuse for that), and part of it was due to a college reunion of sorts with the "gang", Glenn,... Kerry Lost Becaue of Michael Moore
I haven’t been writing much here post-election. Some of it is blogging exhaustion (and I know I hardly have much excuse for that), and part of it was due to a college reunion of sorts with the “gang”, Glenn,…

]]> by: Paul http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22545 Wed, 10 Nov 2024 01:28:35 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22545 From Karl Rove on MTP: ----- I do have a little bit of a different view of those numbers.  First of all, if you take Iraq and terrorism and aggregate them, which I think are sort of different sides of the same coin, 34 percent of the electorate we're concerned with, if you will, the security issue.  If you take taxes and the economy and aggregate them, they're 25 percent of the electorate and then moral values is third.  That's not to denigrate the importance of moral values which have traditionally been about 16 percent of the electorate have been concerned with that as their number one issue in past races.  What essentially happened in this race was people became concerned about three issues--first, the war, then the economy, jobs and taxes, and, third, moral values.  And then everything else dropped off of the plate.  And security grew the most in comparison to past races but values grew second, the second most amount. ----- I think that sums it up. From Karl Rove on MTP:

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I do have a little bit of a different view of those numbers.  First of all, if you take Iraq and terrorism and aggregate them, which I think are sort of different sides of the same coin, 34 percent of the electorate we’re concerned with, if you will, the security issue.  If you take taxes and the economy and aggregate them, they’re 25 percent of the electorate and then moral values is third.  That’s not to denigrate the importance of moral values which have traditionally been about 16 percent of the electorate have been concerned with that as their number one issue in past races.  What essentially happened in this race was people became concerned about three issues–first, the war, then the economy, jobs and taxes, and, third, moral values.  And then everything else dropped off of the plate.  And security grew the most in comparison to past races but values grew second, the second most amount.
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I think that sums it up.

]]> by: Random Fate http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22250 Tue, 09 Nov 2024 20:07:00 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22250 <strong>More on "moral values"</strong> PoliBlog has an analysis of the "moral values" poll results that comes to similar conclusions to my commentary posted yesterday.... More on “moral values”
PoliBlog has an analysis of the “moral values” poll results that comes to similar conclusions to my commentary posted yesterday….

]]> by: The American Mind http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22248 Tue, 09 Nov 2024 20:04:05 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22248 <strong>How Valuable Were "Values?"</strong> Steven Taylor writes, "As such, I would argue that far, far, far too much is being made, on both sides,... How Valuable Were “Values?”
Steven Taylor writes, “As such, I would argue that far, far, far too much is being made, on both sides,…

]]> by: Dean's World http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22236 Tue, 09 Nov 2024 19:41:16 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22236 <strong>Moral Values</strong> Much is being made on both the right and the left about the fact that "moral values" was one of the most popular reasons cited by voters for voting for Bush. Both sides are basically full of hot air on that, methinks, and Moral Values
Much is being made on both the right and the left about the fact that “moral values” was one of the most popular reasons cited by voters for voting for Bush. Both sides are basically full of hot air on that, methinks, and

]]> by: The Moderate Voice http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22203 Tue, 09 Nov 2024 16:35:28 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5278#comment-22203 <strong>So What WERE The "Moral Values" Voters Voted For?</strong> Professional political Scientist Steven Taylor puts the issue of the importance So What WERE The “Moral Values” Voters Voted For?
Professional political Scientist Steven Taylor puts the issue of the importance

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