Comments on: My MLK Day Post http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937 A rough draft of my thoughts... Sat, 18 Nov 2024 05:49:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: scottorrell http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27791 Wed, 19 Jan 2024 00:38:04 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27791 What, an MLK day posting from Alabama and NO mention of Robert E. Lee day? For shame. What, an MLK day posting from Alabama and NO mention of Robert E. Lee day? For shame.

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by: The Big Board http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27783 Tue, 18 Jan 2024 20:20:27 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27783 <strong>The Ongoing Saga Of Al-Qloushi v. Woolcock</strong> The Ahmad Al-Qloushi incident, which I discussed yesterday, is in danger of descending into the realm of partisan hackery. Most bloggers have now come to realize that the essay in question was very poorly written and did not even come close to ans... The Ongoing Saga Of Al-Qloushi v. Woolcock
The Ahmad Al-Qloushi incident, which I discussed yesterday, is in danger of descending into the realm of partisan hackery.

Most bloggers have now come to realize that the essay in question was very poorly written and did not even come close to ans…

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by: Ann http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27777 Tue, 18 Jan 2024 13:57:38 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27777 On the Constitution, there's no question that it was written by wealthy white males, a small unrepresentative fraction of the population. But the part about the Constitution being "dominated by American's elite interest" is less clear. It established certain rights that didn't depend on economic status (and laid the groundwork for later expansion, although it undoubtedly discriminated based on race and gender when written). More importantly, the Constitution enshrined the principal of checks and balances. This was rare at the time and was a huge step forward that many governments around the world are still reluctant to take. Yes, our laws weren't perfect from the very first day, and they're still not perfect now. But establishing the rule of law, and maintaining that people had certain inalienable rights, was far beyond most other parts of the planet, at the time, and it set the stage for future progress in truly extending rights to everyone. On the Constitution, there’s no question that it was written by wealthy white males, a small unrepresentative fraction of the population. But the part about the Constitution being “dominated by American’s elite interest” is less clear. It established certain rights that didn’t depend on economic status (and laid the groundwork for later expansion, although it undoubtedly discriminated based on race and gender when written).

More importantly, the Constitution enshrined the principal of checks and balances. This was rare at the time and was a huge step forward that many governments around the world are still reluctant to take. Yes, our laws weren’t perfect from the very first day, and they’re still not perfect now. But establishing the rule of law, and maintaining that people had certain inalienable rights, was far beyond most other parts of the planet, at the time, and it set the stage for future progress in truly extending rights to everyone.

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by: Ann http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27776 Tue, 18 Jan 2024 13:30:12 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27776 First, on the essay question - if I was a student, I would get the impression from the way the question is worded that it would be graded based on the conclusion, not the reasoning or strength of my arguments. Challenging questions are fine, but that question left me with the impression that only one answer would even be considered. Perhaps, ex post, I'd learn otherwise, but I would have to risk my grade to find out. That school district in Kansas City is the perfect example that money alone doesn't fix everything. A judge ruled that it was discriminatory to underfund a poor school district and basically ordered unlimited funding. The State was ordered to keep an account for the school district with (I think it was) $1 million in it at all times. Every time the school district spent money, the State had to top up the account so that there was no chance that the school would ever face any financial constraints. They had a Russian fencing instructor that didn't speak English, which also meant a full time translator. I think the situation has lasted for well over a decade, and test scores still aren't that great. Of course, it's hard to imagine why unlimited funds would ever be good for any organization. In addition to better funding for education, the U.S. needs to provide all children with a safe neighborhood, free (relatively, at least) from crime and violence. I'm a conservative that believes that the government should focus more on equal opportunity than on equal outcomes. But it's outrageous that any child in the U.S. would have to grow up in a dangerous neighborhood, having to worry about drive-by shootings or other violent crimes. Even with a well-funded school, we're not giving a child a decent chance in an environment like that. First, on the essay question - if I was a student, I would get the impression from the way the question is worded that it would be graded based on the conclusion, not the reasoning or strength of my arguments. Challenging questions are fine, but that question left me with the impression that only one answer would even be considered. Perhaps, ex post, I’d learn otherwise, but I would have to risk my grade to find out.

That school district in Kansas City is the perfect example that money alone doesn’t fix everything. A judge ruled that it was discriminatory to underfund a poor school district and basically ordered unlimited funding. The State was ordered to keep an account for the school district with (I think it was) $1 million in it at all times. Every time the school district spent money, the State had to top up the account so that there was no chance that the school would ever face any financial constraints. They had a Russian fencing instructor that didn’t speak English, which also meant a full time translator. I think the situation has lasted for well over a decade, and test scores still aren’t that great. Of course, it’s hard to imagine why unlimited funds would ever be good for any organization.

In addition to better funding for education, the U.S. needs to provide all children with a safe neighborhood, free (relatively, at least) from crime and violence. I’m a conservative that believes that the government should focus more on equal opportunity than on equal outcomes. But it’s outrageous that any child in the U.S. would have to grow up in a dangerous neighborhood, having to worry about drive-by shootings or other violent crimes. Even with a well-funded school, we’re not giving a child a decent chance in an environment like that.

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by: Trolling in Shallow Water http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27772 Tue, 18 Jan 2024 08:04:57 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27772 <strong>Fact checking in the blogosphere</strong> I am as conservative as they come. So I take comfort in the fact that others in the right half of the blogosphere are also beginning to ask hard questions. Steve Taylor at PoliBlog has looked over the original essay, and gives it a "D." James Joyner ... Fact checking in the blogosphere
I am as conservative as they come. So I take comfort in the fact that others in the right half of the blogosphere are also beginning to ask hard questions. Steve Taylor at PoliBlog has looked over the original essay, and gives it a “D.” James Joyner …

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by: Paul http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27770 Tue, 18 Jan 2024 03:23:00 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27770 Steven- That wold be an interesting post. While I've never posted on it that I recall, it is one of the greatest areas of policy interest. I've never seen a school system where the total spending (fed, state and local) did not reach $4,500 per pupil for a 9 month year. Assuming 25 kids per room that is $112,500 per class per year. (every year) assume the teacher gets paid $32,500 (probably generous) that leave $80,000 A YEAR left over. The building is capital (bond) money so there is no rent. Janitors don't cost that much. And schools get a break on electricity. There is the special ed costs but most schools only have 1 or 2 special ed teachers. Books are pricey but they use them for years. The library is a legitimate use of funds but they don;t cost <i>that</i> much to run. AND this does not include grant money. Most computers are purchased via one grant or another so that is not where all the money is going. Mind you that is the cheapest I have found. In (I think it was) Kanas City they average 44 THOUSAND dollars per kid per year. In a classroom of 25 kids that is 1.1 million bucks per classroom. You could pay the teacher 100K per year and STILL have a million bucks left over! OK so I'm rambling. What is the lowest number you can find in ALA? Steven- That wold be an interesting post. While I’ve never posted on it that I recall, it is one of the greatest areas of policy interest.

I’ve never seen a school system where the total spending (fed, state and local) did not reach $4,500 per pupil for a 9 month year.

Assuming 25 kids per room that is $112,500 per class per year. (every year) assume the teacher gets paid $32,500 (probably generous) that leave $80,000 A YEAR left over. The building is capital (bond) money so there is no rent. Janitors don’t cost that much. And schools get a break on electricity.

There is the special ed costs but most schools only have 1 or 2 special ed teachers. Books are pricey but they use them for years. The library is a legitimate use of funds but they don;t cost that much to run.

AND this does not include grant money. Most computers are purchased via one grant or another so that is not where all the money is going.

Mind you that is the cheapest I have found. In (I think it was) Kanas City they average 44 THOUSAND dollars per kid per year. In a classroom of 25 kids that is 1.1 million bucks per classroom. You could pay the teacher 100K per year and STILL have a million bucks left over!

OK so I’m rambling.

What is the lowest number you can find in ALA?

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by: bryan http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27769 Tue, 18 Jan 2024 01:44:48 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27769 Re: underfunded schools. If you look at funding on a system-wide level, the figures are misleading. I can point out some suburban schools that somehow have all the music and extracurricular programs they want while inner city schools in the same district are scraping by. Coming from a school district that had forced busing, I can speak from experience. Until the busing was approved, our suburban high school had a working planetarium. The school on the other side of town had a working metal gate at the entrance. And as for professors playing politics, I'm a little bit slower to draw the line, because I just witnessed a fall semester on our campus that saw professors laying it on pretty thick for Bush, and some students fearful of saying anything who were opposed to Bush or the war. This is a private school, of course. Re: underfunded schools.

If you look at funding on a system-wide level, the figures are misleading. I can point out some suburban schools that somehow have all the music and extracurricular programs they want while inner city schools in the same district are scraping by. Coming from a school district that had forced busing, I can speak from experience. Until the busing was approved, our suburban high school had a working planetarium. The school on the other side of town had a working metal gate at the entrance.

And as for professors playing politics, I’m a little bit slower to draw the line, because I just witnessed a fall semester on our campus that saw professors laying it on pretty thick for Bush, and some students fearful of saying anything who were opposed to Bush or the war. This is a private school, of course.

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by: Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27767 Mon, 17 Jan 2024 23:53:13 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27767 Paul, It is clear that per pupil expenditures isn't the best measure of a school system--look at DC. Indeed, some of the problems are linked to the out of wedlock births I noted in the piece. However, after moving to Alabama I am now <i>utterly</i> convinced that there is such a thing as an inadequately funded school system. And that comes at a cost for the economic development of the state as well as damaging the individual development of a large number of citizens. And Watcher: sorry about that: it's fixed! Paul,

It is clear that per pupil expenditures isn’t the best measure of a school system–look at DC. Indeed, some of the problems are linked to the out of wedlock births I noted in the piece. However, after moving to Alabama I am now utterly convinced that there is such a thing as an inadequately funded school system.

And that comes at a cost for the economic development of the state as well as damaging the individual development of a large number of citizens.

And Watcher: sorry about that: it’s fixed!

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by: Watcher http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27766 Mon, 17 Jan 2024 22:21:22 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27766 Thanks for the link, but I notice that you spelled my blog's name wrong... don't make me reach for the red pen! ;-) Thanks for the link, but I notice that you spelled my blog’s name wrong… don’t make me reach for the red pen! ;-)

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by: The Moderate Voice http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27765 Mon, 17 Jan 2024 22:05:33 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=5937#comment-27765 <strong>Dr. Martin Luther King: January 15, 1929- April 4, 1968</strong> On April 4, 1968 I was an Amity High School senior, sitting up in my room in Woodbridge, Connecticut writing a history term paper on conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. I was then, as now, a Dr. Martin Luther King: January 15, 1929- April 4, 1968
On April 4, 1968 I was an Amity High School senior, sitting up in my room in Woodbridge, Connecticut writing a history term paper on conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. I was then, as now, a

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