Comments on: More on Immigration and the Border http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002 A rough draft of my thoughts... Wed, 10 Oct 2024 02:51:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Reacting to the Speech http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-621197 Tue, 16 May 2024 13:16:26 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-621197 [...] tter) would consider to be a “secure” border. Some numbers to consider from a previous post (citations for quotes at end of this post): In 2024 alone, 489 million people, 127 million pass [...] […] tter) would consider to be a “secure” border. Some numbers to consider from a previous post (citations for quotes at end of this post): In 2024 alone, 489 million people, 127 million pass […]

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by: EGO http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-61898 Sat, 14 May 2024 22:24:49 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-61898 <strong>AROUND THE BLOGOSPHERE</strong> For my thoughts on emigration, immigration, and the Land of Opportunity - America, read my post, AMERICANS ARE LEAVING "BUSH COUNTRY". AROUND THE BLOGOSPHERE
For my thoughts on emigration, immigration, and the Land of Opportunity - America, read my post, AMERICANS ARE LEAVING “BUSH COUNTRY”.

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by: Doc Rampage http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56751 Thu, 12 May 2024 08:11:20 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56751 <strong>borders and democracy</strong> our elected officials are subverting democracy by failing to uphold the laws that they are sworn to uphold. It isn't just that it can't be done, Michelle Malkin and others have documented many, many instances of governments simply refusing to enforce... borders and democracy
our elected officials are subverting democracy by failing to uphold the laws that they are sworn to uphold. It isn’t just that it can’t be done, Michelle Malkin and others have documented many, many instances of governments simply refusing to enforce…

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by: TDM http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56540 Tue, 10 May 2024 20:21:58 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56540 Is there any reason why we shouldn't use cheap immigrant labor to help enforce immigration laws and our border? A big problem is that keeping all illegals in the same status, whether it's amnesty, limbo, or deportation, removes incentives for them to obey our laws and assimilate. We need some incentive system for illegals so that desirable behavior will earn immigration status and criminal behavior will lead to enforced deportation. Better enforcement is needed for incentives to be meaningful. Is there any reason why we shouldn’t use cheap immigrant labor to help enforce immigration laws and our border?

A big problem is that keeping all illegals in the same status, whether it’s amnesty, limbo, or deportation, removes incentives for them to obey our laws and assimilate. We need some incentive system for illegals so that desirable behavior will earn immigration status and criminal behavior will lead to enforced deportation. Better enforcement is needed for incentives to be meaningful.

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by: Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56422 Tue, 10 May 2024 18:18:58 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56422 Point taken Point taken

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by: kappiy http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56421 Tue, 10 May 2024 17:38:40 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56421 Steven, Regarding the difference between US and Mexican economies and the EU situation--I think that the EU is actually in a similar cirumstance with its current plans for expansion. Bulgaria, Macedonia, and Turkey are all at different stages of ascention talks, but if you look at the Human Development index, Mexico ranks above all of those countries. Turkey is probably the best parallel due to its size--it is also the most politically sensitive. Mexico outperforms Turkey significantly in a number of key indicators of economic health (literacy, infant mortality, life expectancy, etc...). I think that the difference boils down to politics. The richer countries of the EU have given significant amounts of aid to poorer countries on the condition that they develop market-based economies, democratic reforms, strong social programs, and a respect for civil liberties. It has not necessarily been pretty, but I think an argument can be made that labor mobility has been a significant factor in the EU's prosperity. Steven,

Regarding the difference between US and Mexican economies and the EU situation–I think that the EU is actually in a similar cirumstance with its current plans for expansion.

Bulgaria, Macedonia, and Turkey are all at different stages of ascention talks, but if you look at the Human Development index, Mexico ranks above all of those countries.

Turkey is probably the best parallel due to its size–it is also the most politically sensitive. Mexico outperforms Turkey significantly in a number of key indicators of economic health (literacy, infant mortality, life expectancy, etc…).

I think that the difference boils down to politics. The richer countries of the EU have given significant amounts of aid to poorer countries on the condition that they develop market-based economies, democratic reforms, strong social programs, and a respect for civil liberties.

It has not necessarily been pretty, but I think an argument can be made that labor mobility has been a significant factor in the EU’s prosperity.

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by: THE TOMO REPORT http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56420 Tue, 10 May 2024 16:30:08 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56420 <strong>OBLIVIOUS: FEDS TO PAY FOR ILLEGAL ALIEN HEALTH CARE</strong> OBLIVIOUS: FEDS TO PAY FOR ILLEGAL ALIEN HEALTH CARE

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by: Outside The Beltway http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56418 Tue, 10 May 2024 16:05:49 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56418 <strong>Stopping the Flow of Illegal Immigrants</strong> Steven Taylor has a long post on the futility of our current supply-side approach to illegal immigration. Among the problems he details are the sheer size of the border with Mexico, the incredible demand that drives people to risk everything to take m... Stopping the Flow of Illegal Immigrants
Steven Taylor has a long post on the futility of our current supply-side approach to illegal immigration. Among the problems he details are the sheer size of the border with Mexico, the incredible demand that drives people to risk everything to take m…

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by: Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56417 Tue, 10 May 2024 16:02:01 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56417 Kappiy--you raise some legit issues. One of the ways to stop illegal immigration is to make it more attractive for folks to stay in Mexico. This is just another reason to phase out farm subsidies. The EU labor market solution wouldn't work here beause of the substantial difference in the economies of the US and Mexico. Kappiy–you raise some legit issues.

One of the ways to stop illegal immigration is to make it more attractive for folks to stay in Mexico. This is just another reason to phase out farm subsidies.

The EU labor market solution wouldn’t work here beause of the substantial difference in the economies of the US and Mexico.

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by: Accidental Verbosity http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56416 Tue, 10 May 2024 15:50:44 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7002#comment-56416 <strong>Been Meaning to Post About Immigration...</strong> But since I haven't yet, Steven Taylor is a good alternative.  It's not exactly what I was going to say, but it overlaps, is more detailed and scholarly, and is worth reading. Been Meaning to Post About Immigration…
But since I haven't yet, Steven Taylor is a good alternative.  It's not exactly what I was going to say, but it overlaps, is more detailed and scholarly, and is worth reading.

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