Comments on: The Political Ethics of Star Wars http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222 A rough draft of my thoughts... Thu, 08 Dec 2024 05:27:48 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: PoliBlog: Politics is the Master Science » More Star Wars Politics http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-70117 PoliBlog: Politics is the Master Science » More Star Wars Politics Wed, 08 Jun 2024 23:40:07 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-70117 [...] ics By Dr. Steven Taylor @ 6:38 pm Professor Bainbridge joins in the fun over the interstellar politics of the SW universe. (non-scifi geeks can move along, this isn’t the post you [...] [...] ics
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Professor Bainbridge joins in the fun over the interstellar politics of the SW universe. (non-scifi geeks can move along, this isn’t the post you [...]

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By: The Window Manager http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69311 The Window Manager Sun, 05 Jun 2024 20:05:17 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69311 <strong>Does This Make Me a Nerd?</strong> Mrs. Director and I tried to figure out the politics over cocktails afterwards, but as Poliblog noted, they just don't make sense. Does This Make Me a Nerd?

Mrs. Director and I tried to figure out the politics over cocktails afterwards, but as Poliblog noted, they just don’t make sense.

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By: Steve http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69303 Steve Sun, 05 Jun 2024 16:53:45 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69303 This brings back fond recollections of my geeky past, when in high school we used to argue forcefully (sic) about things such as whether the Starship Enterprise could beat the Battlestar Galactica in a fair fight. I find very little entertainment value in discussing a government system described in a screenplay, especially in scripts that are as badly written as the Star Wars scripts. You will inevitably find yourself injecting far more meaning into the story than the author(s) brought to the job. My high school friends and I still argue about things like this from time to time, but nowadays we concentrate on the ideas put forth in books that have gone to the trouble of developing an idea with some degree of consistency. Our current favourite is The Culture from Ian Banks' books. This brings back fond recollections of my geeky past, when in high school we used to argue forcefully (sic) about things such as whether the Starship Enterprise could beat the Battlestar Galactica in a fair fight.

I find very little entertainment value in discussing a government system described in a screenplay, especially in scripts that are as badly written as the Star Wars scripts. You will inevitably find yourself injecting far more meaning into the story than the author(s) brought to the job.

My high school friends and I still argue about things like this from time to time, but nowadays we concentrate on the ideas put forth in books that have gone to the trouble of developing an idea with some degree of consistency. Our current favourite is The Culture from Ian Banks’ books.

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By: Dr. Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69233 Dr. Steven Taylor Sun, 05 Jun 2024 12:37:01 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69233 One would think, but if that were the case, where were said militaries during III when Grevious' droid army was attacking? Where were they in IV-VI during the rebellion? Why did Obi-Wan need the clones in II or, for that matter, why did Palpatine need them in III+? He was the duly elected Chancellor and then duly crowned Emperor, and therefore should have been able to gather such forces unto himself. One would think, but if that were the case, where were said militaries during III when Grevious’ droid army was attacking? Where were they in IV-VI during the rebellion? Why did Obi-Wan need the clones in II or, for that matter, why did Palpatine need them in III+? He was the duly elected Chancellor and then duly crowned Emperor, and therefore should have been able to gather such forces unto himself.

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By: Brett http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69232 Brett Sun, 05 Jun 2024 12:30:10 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69232 As to the standing army.... Could It be that each system is responsible for its own defense and armed forces (Ie. Naboo and the Trade Federation in Episode I). I think it is better to think of the republic as a confederacy or EU type organization than a federal system. As to the standing army…. Could It be that each system is responsible for its own defense and armed forces (Ie. Naboo and the Trade Federation in Episode I). I think it is better to think of the republic as a confederacy or EU type organization than a federal system.

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By: Sarge http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69201 Sarge Sat, 04 Jun 2024 17:25:14 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69201 Politcs is devoid of ethics, especially in America. Or what's left of it. Politcs is devoid of ethics, especially in America.

Or what’s left of it.

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By: Jan http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69196 Jan Sat, 04 Jun 2024 15:36:19 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69196 My sister thinks that the Jedi and the whole saga are more representative of religion than politics. Having never seen any of the new trilogy I can't personally comment. However, after hearing your "glowing" reviews, I really have even less desire to see them than I did before. My sister thinks that the Jedi and the whole saga are more representative of religion than politics. Having never seen any of the new trilogy I can’t personally comment. However, after hearing your “glowing” reviews, I really have even less desire to see them than I did before.

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By: Dr. Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69193 Dr. Steven Taylor Sat, 04 Jun 2024 15:06:16 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69193 And, technically, a system could be federal in arrangment, and not actually democratic. And, technically, a system could be federal in arrangment, and not actually democratic.

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By: Dr. Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69192 Dr. Steven Taylor Sat, 04 Jun 2024 15:04:51 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69192 Of course, in the case of Naboo (again, what a name), and the only one where we have any information, th Queem appointed Padme to be Senator (although there was some talk of the Queen being elected, I think). Most odd in any event. The writing/thought issue aside (which is the real problem) the funny thing in terms of Lucas is that in III he makes a big deal about the death of democracy and protecting democracy, but there isn't much actual democracy on display. Of course, in the case of Naboo (again, what a name), and the only one where we have any information, th Queem appointed Padme to be Senator (although there was some talk of the Queen being elected, I think). Most odd in any event.

The writing/thought issue aside (which is the real problem) the funny thing in terms of Lucas is that in III he makes a big deal about the death of democracy and protecting democracy, but there isn’t much actual democracy on display.

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By: Scott Gosnell http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222&cpage=1#comment-69190 Scott Gosnell Sat, 04 Jun 2024 14:48:24 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=7222#comment-69190 Actually, not to pick nits, but most of the bad guys wore white (the stormtroopers). This has always bothered me, as if something inside me thinks they should be wearing ecrew or something. Could it still be a <i>form</i> of federalism (democracy) if the Senators are appointed by the governments of their own planets, rather than appointed from the top down? In that case, though the affairs of the individual planets may not be democratically managed, the affairs of the Republic (a <i>representative</i> democracy, not a true democracy) were (i.e. voted on democratically in the Senate). An imperfect analogy, I grant you (analogies, by definition, are), but remember that our U.S. Senators were originally supposed to be elected by the state legislatures, not the public. This post constitutes the sum lifetime total of time and effort allotted to me for the contemplation and expression of the politics of Star Wars. Actually, not to pick nits, but most of the bad guys wore white (the stormtroopers). This has always bothered me, as if something inside me thinks they should be wearing ecrew or something.

Could it still be a form of federalism (democracy) if the Senators are appointed by the governments of their own planets, rather than appointed from the top down? In that case, though the affairs of the individual planets may not be democratically managed, the affairs of the Republic (a representative democracy, not a true democracy) were (i.e. voted on democratically in the Senate). An imperfect analogy, I grant you (analogies, by definition, are), but remember that our U.S. Senators were originally supposed to be elected by the state legislatures, not the public.

This post constitutes the sum lifetime total of time and effort allotted to me for the contemplation and expression of the politics of Star Wars.

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