Comments on: I Wish There was a Grade Lower Than Zero http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854 A rough draft of my thoughts... Sat, 18 Nov 2024 05:50:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Plagiarism and Ben Domenech http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-500769 Fri, 24 Mar 2024 15:47:46 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-500769 [...] 217;s commentary or writing ability, but as is well known to regular readers and students, I can’t abide by plagiarism. If the charges of plagiarism are true (and who plagiarizes movie reivews?) [...] […] 217;s commentary or writing ability, but as is well known to regular readers and students, I can’t abide by plagiarism. If the charges of plagiarism are true (and who plagiarizes movie reivews?) […]

]]>
by: Eirik http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-331147 Thu, 08 Dec 2024 01:21:23 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-331147 In graduate school (optometry) I watched a classmate copy and paste large sections of a large paper directly from a CD-Rom medical encyclopedia. I remember giving him crap about it, but didn't turn him in because I'm almost phobic about confrontation. It burned me at the time because, IIRC, it was a long paper, difficult to write, and I had used about half a dozen sources to get mine done. He used a frickin medical text and used that authors sources. I doubt that he was caught, either. The prof had so many papers to grade that its likely he didn't realize what he was reading was stolen. As for catching modern plagerists, I've heard of teachers and profs typing odd phrases into Google and seeing what pops up. I've also heard a story, most likely urban legand, about a young man getting into an argument about his paper on the Russian Revolution. The prof insists that the paper is plagerized and the student demands that he proves it. The prof points to the end of the paper, where the student had copy/pasted "See also, Lenin, Vladimir." In graduate school (optometry) I watched a classmate copy and paste large sections of a large paper directly from a CD-Rom medical encyclopedia. I remember giving him crap about it, but didn’t turn him in because I’m almost phobic about confrontation. It burned me at the time because, IIRC, it was a long paper, difficult to write, and I had used about half a dozen sources to get mine done. He used a frickin medical text and used that authors sources. I doubt that he was caught, either. The prof had so many papers to grade that its likely he didn’t realize what he was reading was stolen.

As for catching modern plagerists, I’ve heard of teachers and profs typing odd phrases into Google and seeing what pops up. I’ve also heard a story, most likely urban legand, about a young man getting into an argument about his paper on the Russian Revolution. The prof insists that the paper is plagerized and the student demands that he proves it. The prof points to the end of the paper, where the student had copy/pasted “See also, Lenin, Vladimir.”

]]>
by: Jody http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-331146 Thu, 08 Dec 2024 00:24:41 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-331146 At Virginia Tech, plagiarism is an honor code violation. If convicted, one of the weakest punishments available is a double-weighted zero. At Virginia Tech, plagiarism is an honor code violation. If convicted, one of the weakest punishments available is a double-weighted zero.

]]>
by: lisa http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-331142 Wed, 07 Dec 2024 23:09:51 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-331142 Anyone who has ever set in one of your classes on the first day should know that you take plagerizing. But what would an end of the semster be without at least one. And since it is the fall semster maybe they will give you a special Christmas present. Anyone who has ever set in one of your classes on the first day should know that you take plagerizing. But what would an end of the semster be without at least one. And since it is the fall semster maybe they will give you a special Christmas present.

]]>
by: Jan http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-331135 Wed, 07 Dec 2024 21:31:30 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-331135 Just to be on the safe side, you could always put a clause in your syllabus saying that a plagerized paper will get one an automatic "F" for the course. It would at least save you the trouble of grading the person's final exam. ;) Just to be on the safe side, you could always put a clause in your syllabus saying that a plagerized paper will get one an automatic “F” for the course. It would at least save you the trouble of grading the person’s final exam. ;)

]]>
by: Dr. Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-330991 Wed, 07 Dec 2024 18:05:13 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-330991 To be honest, giving a zero rally does the trick--I am just venting. Since we are talking about students who usually aren't doing all that well in the first place, a zero on a major project pretty much guarantee's failure in the course. There's a great <i>Peanuts</i> cartoon in which Peppermint Patty gets a "Z-" and says "That's not a grade, that's sarcasm"--at this point, I'm hungry for some sarcasm. To answer your question--mostly it is just a case of having read a ton of papers and knowing what I should be seeing. Certainly if a paper goes from gibberish to Harvard-quality prose, that's a tip-off. There are a variety of indicators. Plus I am naturally suspicious :) To be honest, giving a zero rally does the trick–I am just venting. Since we are talking about students who usually aren’t doing all that well in the first place, a zero on a major project pretty much guarantee’s failure in the course.

There’s a great Peanuts cartoon in which Peppermint Patty gets a “Z-” and says “That’s not a grade, that’s sarcasm”–at this point, I’m hungry for some sarcasm.

To answer your question–mostly it is just a case of having read a ton of papers and knowing what I should be seeing. Certainly if a paper goes from gibberish to Harvard-quality prose, that’s a tip-off.

There are a variety of indicators. Plus I am naturally suspicious :)

]]>
by: B. Minich, PI http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-330989 Wed, 07 Dec 2024 17:57:16 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=8854#comment-330989 Well, if you're the prof, why not say, "If I catch you plagerizing, I'll take points away from you."? That'd do the trick for giving them the grade you want. I've always wondered . . . how does a professor spot a plagerized paper? How do you know if someone has copied something? What tips you off? As a good student, I wasn't about to figure this out by actually trying plagerism, but I've always wondered how you spot it. Well, if you’re the prof, why not say, “If I catch you plagerizing, I’ll take points away from you.”? That’d do the trick for giving them the grade you want.

I’ve always wondered . . . how does a professor spot a plagerized paper? How do you know if someone has copied something? What tips you off? As a good student, I wasn’t about to figure this out by actually trying plagerism, but I’ve always wondered how you spot it.

]]>