Comments on: Rice Says “No” (Yet Again) http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115 A rough draft of my thoughts... Fri, 17 Mar 2024 13:46:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.2 by: The Florida Masochist http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-407775 Tue, 17 Jan 2024 16:52:53 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-407775 <strong>The answer is still no</strong> Anyway, if any of us bloggers could sucessfully predict the future, we'd be making our living doing something different entirely. LOL. The answer is still no

Anyway, if any of us bloggers could sucessfully predict the future, we’d be making our living doing something different entirely. LOL.

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by: Fruits and Votes » Blog Archive » Presidential recruitment http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-406490 Tue, 17 Jan 2024 00:51:06 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-406490 [...] ience is posts in the current president&#8217;s cabinet&#8211;prompted me to post a rather extensive comment to Steven&#8217;s post. After thinking of Colombia, Mexico, a [...] […] ience is posts in the current president’s cabinet–prompted me to post a rather extensive comment to Steven’s post. After thinking of Colombia, Mexico, a […]

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by: Red http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-406051 Mon, 16 Jan 2024 21:37:25 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-406051 Whether or not Condi is going to run, she is saying the right things for right now. No one who plans to run for public office, especially the presidency, would say anything furthering the rumor of a possible candidacy this far in advance. If Condi did this, every move of the administration and the State Department would be criticized as political thus greatly damaging the credibility of Bush and Rice. While the possibility of a Condi '08 candidacy is waning in my eyes, it is also important to keep this in mind. Whether or not Condi is going to run, she is saying the right things for right now. No one who plans to run for public office, especially the presidency, would say anything furthering the rumor of a possible candidacy this far in advance. If Condi did this, every move of the administration and the State Department would be criticized as political thus greatly damaging the credibility of Bush and Rice. While the possibility of a Condi ‘08 candidacy is waning in my eyes, it is also important to keep this in mind.

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by: Dr. Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-405951 Mon, 16 Jan 2024 20:49:28 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-405951 Steven L.: Yup. And he kind of creeps me out, too. Steven L.:

Yup. And he kind of creeps me out, too.

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by: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Presidential Nominee Career Paths in Colombia http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-405942 Mon, 16 Jan 2024 20:47:09 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-405942 [...] idential Nominee Career Paths in Colombia By Dr. Steven Taylor @ 2:43 pm In a comment to my post on the probability of a Rice candidacy succeeding, Matthew Shug [...] […] idential Nominee Career Paths in Colombia
By Dr. Steven Taylor @ 2:43 pm

In a comment to my post on the probability of a Rice candidacy succeeding, Matthew Shug […]

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by: Steven L. http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-405813 Mon, 16 Jan 2024 19:54:51 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-405813 since CLinton left office, Dick Morris has been wrong - jarringly, shockingly wrong -- far more often than he has been right in his prognostications, at least to my memory. The smart money bets against whatever he's for. since CLinton left office, Dick Morris has been wrong - jarringly, shockingly wrong — far more often than he has been right in his prognostications, at least to my memory. The smart money bets against whatever he’s for.

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by: Matthew http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-405650 Mon, 16 Jan 2024 18:23:54 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=9115#comment-405650 Nice research. Isn't it interesting how executive recruitment varies in different presidential systems? Just today, we are noting the election of Michele Bachelet as president of Chile. She has never held elective office, yet she was the presumed front-runner very early in the pre-nomination process. She came straight from the incumbent president's cabinet, much as Rice would do if she were to run. Professor Taylor might have this on the top of his head: How many Colombian presidents have been electoral rookies? I think several have been. The incumbent of course was not. He had been a governor (a position that only became elective after 1991, so he was one of the first presidential candidates who could have held elective subnational executive office). Several other Colombian presidents may have been legislators before entering the cabinet, but many have built their credentials for the presidency by serving in the cabinet. Mexican presidents in the era of PRI dominance were almost always electoral rookies, and members of the incument cabinet. Now with real electoral competition, the front-runners, like the incumbent, tend to be governors--though the PAN's candidate for 2024 has not been. So Mexico may be moving in a somewhat US-style direction. Of course, in the US, the successful candidates are almost always experienced in elective executive positions, i.e. governors, and rarely come right from the legislature, let alone any non-elective positions. My tentative conclusion would be that the more federal a presidential system is, and the more open the party nomination process, the more advantageous a governorship is for presidential candidates. Obviously, in Chile, a unitary state, the gubernatorial recruitment channel is not available. It is striking that the US has effectively closed off the cabinet as a place from which one could launch a presidential candidacy. And it has apparently mostly closed off the federal legislature as a place to launch a <i>successful</i> candidacy. Nice research. Isn’t it interesting how executive recruitment varies in different presidential systems? Just today, we are noting the election of Michele Bachelet as president of Chile. She has never held elective office, yet she was the presumed front-runner very early in the pre-nomination process. She came straight from the incumbent president’s cabinet, much as Rice would do if she were to run.

Professor Taylor might have this on the top of his head: How many Colombian presidents have been electoral rookies? I think several have been. The incumbent of course was not. He had been a governor (a position that only became elective after 1991, so he was one of the first presidential candidates who could have held elective subnational executive office). Several other Colombian presidents may have been legislators before entering the cabinet, but many have built their credentials for the presidency by serving in the cabinet.

Mexican presidents in the era of PRI dominance were almost always electoral rookies, and members of the incument cabinet. Now with real electoral competition, the front-runners, like the incumbent, tend to be governors–though the PAN’s candidate for 2024 has not been. So Mexico may be moving in a somewhat US-style direction.

Of course, in the US, the successful candidates are almost always experienced in elective executive positions, i.e. governors, and rarely come right from the legislature, let alone any non-elective positions.

My tentative conclusion would be that the more federal a presidential system is, and the more open the party nomination process, the more advantageous a governorship is for presidential candidates. Obviously, in Chile, a unitary state, the gubernatorial recruitment channel is not available.

It is striking that the US has effectively closed off the cabinet as a place from which one could launch a presidential candidacy. And it has apparently mostly closed off the federal legislature as a place to launch a successful candidacy.

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