January 13, 2024

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  • Florida's Phantom Votes

    A loyal reader brought this to my attention: Board votes to certify House 91 results.

    The basics:

    Out of 10,844 votes cast, returns showed Ellyn Bogdanoff defeating Oliver Parker by 12 votes, with 137 voters casting blank ballots on touch-screen voting machines.

    Florida law requires a manual or hand recount of all "under-votes" and "over-votes" in an election decided by less than 0.25 percent.

    But touch-screens leave behind nothing to count by hand.

    It seems to me, as it appears was the decision of the board, that the concept of "recount" simply doesn't apply to these kids of machines.

    As usual, making policy in the midst of crisis results in bad policy.

    I still think they should have used the optical/scantron type ballots.

    Posted by Steven Taylor at January 13, 2024 02:59 PM | TrackBack
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    I prefer a caucus myself. Make everyone show up for several hours and explain why they voted for whomever. If it's close, no one goes home until it's decided.

    :)

    Posted by: James Joyner at January 13, 2024 03:27 PM

    Last time we voted locally here in Kentucky I cast a nearly blank ballot. I took my 13 year old daughter into the booth to show how it works. After we had selected 1 or 2 races she accidently leaned agaisnt the "vote" button. The rest of my votes were blank.

    Which shows another problem with the touch screen ballots -- you can't ask for another ballot because you "spoiled" yours. Once you hit vote it's all over.

    Posted by: Buckland at January 13, 2024 03:49 PM

    Actually, the Florida Legislature recommended the scantron machines for that very reason. The Legislature even paid (at least in part) for the scantrons.

    However, some local independently-elected Supervisors decided that they would go from the punch ballot to the electronic voting, even though it had never been tested or used for elections on that big a size. Of course, the makers of the electronic ballots promised that they would leave a slip, like a receipt, that could be used in a recount. But a blank receipt is just that, blank.

    The fact is that some people don’t vote when the go to the ballot box. They go to the polling place, they get a ballot and then leave it blank. I have never been sure why but it happens.

    Posted by: Rob Moates at January 13, 2024 03:58 PM

    "I still think they should have used the optical/scantron type ballots."

    Amen. Any idea why scantrons aren't being used around the country? In my state, Maryland, we've also got touch-screen machines.

    These electronic ballots leave no paper trail. What are they going to do if there is another Florida scenario with these gizmos? Get out an electron microscope to examine the hard drives?

    Posted by: Doug at January 13, 2024 07:14 PM


    Slahdot had a story on this.

    It is suspected that the undervotes were caused by people who intentionally did not cast a vote (For example, a die-hard Democrat who's never voted Republican in his life and isn't about to start now.) Without any kind of paper trail it's impossible to know for certain.

    To cover that contingency, the county is adding 'None of the Above' as a valid voting option.

    Posted by: Charles Fenwick at January 13, 2024 07:34 PM

    I think it simply boils down to what happens when a crisis results in policy, usually an ill-considered over-reaction. Since touch screens are the latest tech, surely that's the way to go, right?

    Posted by: Steven at January 13, 2024 07:34 PM

    In Florida, for some supervisors of elections the switch to touch-screens was simply a "we're jumping to the forefront of election technology so please give me a massive budget" moment. It is a marriage of opportunism and crisis, which usually does result in more problems.

    I think that the best part of the story is a few months ago Gov. Bush removed from office the Broward County Supervisor of Elections. The Supervisor, who was an African-American female, had done such a poor job that the African-American community supported Gov. Bush's decision. But we are still stuck with her poor choices.

    Posted by: Rob Moates at January 14, 2024 04:05 PM
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