Comments on: Final Plame Post of the Night (I Think!) http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692 A rough draft of my thoughts... Mon, 08 May 2024 15:45:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.2 by: JohnC http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692#comment-6455 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:59:59 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692#comment-6455 Well, if the defense is "I was out of the loop", then I'm just going to have to laugh. Over the last 24 hours it's become abundantly clear that the CIA does have something solid. All the "oh, she's just an analyst, not an operative" lines are pretty much completely trashed. I know you're just being open minded, but I think you're forgetting who is involved in all this. Maybe the President won't resign because of this, but pretty much everyone else likely will in that case. But I wouldn't count out the very real possibility that GW's neck will be caught in this noose. Well, if the defense is “I was out of the loop”, then I’m just going to have to laugh. Over the last 24 hours it’s become abundantly clear that the CIA does have something solid. All the “oh, she’s just an analyst, not an operative” lines are pretty much completely trashed.

I know you’re just being open minded, but I think you’re forgetting who is involved in all this. Maybe the President won’t resign because of this, but pretty much everyone else likely will in that case.

But I wouldn’t count out the very real possibility that GW’s neck will be caught in this noose.

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by: JadeGold http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692#comment-6454 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:59:59 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692#comment-6454 Frankly, I don't believe Dubya knows what day of the week it is; all he likely knows is it's another day to read a fundraising speech somebody's given him. If he rreads it well and doesn't screw up to many words, Karl Rove will let him play Nintendo tonight and have beer and pretzels. But the fact is the WH political arm has been intimately involved in this story since at least 14 July 03. What Steven is pretending not to know is the fact that <i>every</i> national politician is in full campaign mode every day. As such, these politicians are very aware of not just what people are saying about their potential opponents but also what people are saying about them. For Steven to claim Dubya hasn't been aware of at least the possibility of a CIA or an FBI investigation WRT this story is simply absurd. Again, this WH has known since at least 14 Jul 03 that someone on their senior staff has committed a crime. A crime which has national security implications. Frankly, I don’t believe Dubya knows what day of the week it is; all he likely knows is it’s another day to read a fundraising speech somebody’s given him. If he rreads it well and doesn’t screw up to many words, Karl Rove will let him play Nintendo tonight and have beer and pretzels.

But the fact is the WH political arm has been intimately involved in this story since at least 14 July 03. What Steven is pretending not to know is the fact that every national politician is in full campaign mode every day. As such, these politicians are very aware of not just what people are saying about their potential opponents but also what people are saying about them. For Steven to claim Dubya hasn’t been aware of at least the possibility of a CIA or an FBI investigation WRT this story is simply absurd.

Again, this WH has known since at least 14 Jul 03 that someone on their senior staff has committed a crime. A crime which has national security implications.

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by: Steven http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692#comment-6453 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:59:59 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692#comment-6453 JohnC, Do you <i>really</i> think that the President (any Presdient, not just this one) is aware of all (indeed, any) of the referrals to DoJ? This is hardly the case. And I really don't see a "trap"--for whom set by whom to do what? JohnC,

Do you really think that the President (any Presdient, not just this one) is aware of all (indeed, any) of the referrals to DoJ? This is hardly the case.

And I really don’t see a “trap”–for whom set by whom to do what?

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by: JohnC http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692#comment-6452 Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:59:59 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=1692#comment-6452 As I said, I think it's just the first shot across the bow. GW doesn't have to be part of the original crime to be in the legal cross hairs, he just had to do nothing since July when the CIA first notified Justice that this was a crime. And then do nothing again when they were notified three weeks ago that it was not only a crime, but it damaged national security. And I'm pretty sure that's precisely what they all did. Really, you have to simply admire the simplicity of the trap. As I said, I think it’s just the first shot across the bow.

GW doesn’t have to be part of the original crime to be in the legal cross hairs, he just had to do nothing since July when the CIA first notified Justice that this was a crime. And then do nothing again when they were notified three weeks ago that it was not only a crime, but it damaged national security.

And I’m pretty sure that’s precisely what they all did.

Really, you have to simply admire the simplicity of the trap.

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