Comments on: Poppy Cultivation Flourishes in Taliban-Controlled Portions of Afghanstian (and in the Other Parts, too) http://poliblogger.com/?p=12423 A rough draft of my thoughts... Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:07:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Bill Vess http://poliblogger.com/?p=12423#comment-1364336 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:06:09 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=12423#comment-1364336 I guess that is the problem from the Gov't point of view as well. They hope the money will do something; it does not, but they can't cut it because then they are "soft on drugs". Worthwhile to read the UNDP studies on development alternative incomes in Northern Thailand. Cut flowers resulted in 40x more income to the farmers and drug growing is now pretty much gone( eg "drug dealers live with their mother"). Need a Manhatten project to develop other streams of income for these folks. My guess is that drugs will always we with us, but getting them (mostly)out of South Asia would be a big plus. I guess that is the problem from the Gov’t point of view as well. They hope the money will do something; it does not, but they can’t cut it because then they are “soft on drugs”.

Worthwhile to read the UNDP studies on development alternative incomes in Northern Thailand. Cut flowers resulted in 40x more income to the farmers and drug growing is now pretty much gone( eg “drug dealers live with their mother”). Need a Manhatten project to develop other streams of income for these folks. My guess is that drugs will always we with us, but getting them (mostly)out of South Asia would be a big plus.

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by: Dr. Steven Taylor http://poliblogger.com/?p=12423#comment-1364283 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:19:16 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=12423#comment-1364283 That is, of course, a complex question. I will say this for now, and I think it is key--we need a serious, real debate about what is working and what isn't. And, at a minimum, we need to admit that despite spending billions and billions, that we are not getting good return on investment. By own metrics (price, supply, use) we are failing and yet the response is always to just spend more money. We need to recognize that the supply side attacks don't work. We may also need to admit to ourselves that no matter what we do, a certain percentage of the population will use these substances. So yes, some sort of legalization and public health approach makes more sense. Is it a panacea? No. But anyone who can look at the current situation and say that is it working is simply incorrect. The sad thing about the entire discussion is that there is no panacea. The problem is here, and we need to stop acting like we can make it go away. That is, of course, a complex question.

I will say this for now, and I think it is key–we need a serious, real debate about what is working and what isn’t. And, at a minimum, we need to admit that despite spending billions and billions, that we are not getting good return on investment. By own metrics (price, supply, use) we are failing and yet the response is always to just spend more money.

We need to recognize that the supply side attacks don’t work. We may also need to admit to ourselves that no matter what we do, a certain percentage of the population will use these substances. So yes, some sort of legalization and public health approach makes more sense.

Is it a panacea? No. But anyone who can look at the current situation and say that is it working is simply incorrect.

The sad thing about the entire discussion is that there is no panacea. The problem is here, and we need to stop acting like we can make it go away.

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by: Bill Vess http://poliblogger.com/?p=12423#comment-1364282 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:47:29 +0000 http://poliblogger.com/?p=12423#comment-1364282 What is your proposed solution? What is your proposed solution?

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