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Monday, July 4, 2026
Well that’ll stir the pot
By Bryan S. @ 6:53 pm

Pardon me for taking exception on this day of national “unity” to the moanings of Dr. Shugart re: his traumatic experience at a San Diego Padres baseball game last year.

A celebration of America and its greatness (realized and still promised) and the anniversary of its independence should not be hijacked by a mass salute to the power to subdue and kill, least of all in the midst of a war that is thoroughly divisive at home, initiated under false pretenses, slaughtering good patriotic American young men and women and innocent Iraqis, and in all probability being lost.

Patriotism is not the same thing as nationalism, and certainly not the same as jingoism, imperialism, or militarism. Yet we live in an era when, increasingly, those who control publilc events (including baseball games) conflate patriotism with all these other, more sinister, -isms.

There’s so much wrong with those paragraphs that it would take literally weeks to unpack all the factually challenged statements that are just tossed off as so much assumed truth.

Nevertheless, in the interest of engaging in one of our most cherished freedoms - that of freedom of speech and open debate - let’s try to focus on just one, shall we?

A celebration of America and its greatness (realized and still promised) and the anniversary of its independence should not be hijacked by a mass salute to the power to subdue and kill

Dr. Shugart must be totally unaware of the long history of salutes to members of the military during July 4 celebrations, especially in times of war.

To that end, I would simply direct him to a few of these resources (all from a wonderful site by Dr. James R. Heintze at American University: The Fourth of July Celebration Database. Indeed, Dr. Heintze’s database contains numerous examples of “mass salutes to the mass power to subdue and kill.”

Examples of what readers may expect to find include one of the last parades of War of 1812 veterans and the staged battle of the Monitor and the Merrimac in New York (1862), a grand explosion on top of Pike’s Peak (1901), the reunion of Confederate soldiers in Chattanooga (1890), the mock atomic bomb explosion before a crowd of 25,000 in Baltimore (1951), and the Oklahoma City Fourth that included the raising of the American flag back to full-staff after the bombing of the Federal Building earlier that year (1995).

Perhaps he would be interested in Abraham Lincoln’s July 7, 1864 speech:

Gentlemen, this is a glorious theme and a glorious occasion for a speech, but I am not prepared to make one worthy of the theme and worthy of the occasion. [Cries of “go on,” and applause.] I would like to speak in all praise that is due to the the [sic] many brave officers and soldiers who have fought in the cause of the Union and liberties of this country from the beginning of this war, not on occasions of success, but upon the more trying occasions of the want of success. I say I would like to speak in praise of these men, particularizing their deeds, but I am unprepared. I should dislike to mention the name of a single officer, lest in doing so I wrong some other one whose name may not occur to me. [Cheers.]

Recent events bring up certain names, gallantly prominent, but I do not want to particularly name them at the expense of others, who are as justly entitled to our gratitude as they. I therefore do not upon this occasion name a single man. And now I have said about as much as I ought to say in this impromptu manner, and if you please, I’ll take the music. [Tremendous cheering, and calls for the President to reappear.]

Or the words of President Harry S. Truman in 1945:

In this year of 1945, we have pride in the combined might of this nation which has contributed signally to the defeat of the enemy in Europe. We have confidence that, under Providence, we soon may crush the enemy in the Pacific. We have humility for the guidance that has been given us of God in serving His will as a leader of freedom for the world.

This year, the men and women of our armed forces, and many civilians as well, are celebrating the anniversary of American Independence in other countries throughout the world. Citizens of these other lands will understand what we celebrate and why, for freedom is dear to the hearts of all men everywhere. In other lands, others will join us in honoring our declaration that all men are created equal and are endowed with certain inalienable rights–life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Here at home, on this July 4, 1945, let us honor our Nation’s creed of liberty, and the men and women of our armed forces who are carrying this creed with them throughout the world.

Perhaps a democrat president would be better. So here is FDR from 1941:

In 1776 we waged war in behalf of the great principle that government should derive its just powers from the consent of the governed. In other words, representation chosen in free election. In the century and a half that followed, this cause of human freedom swept across the world.

But now, in our generation in the past few years a new resistance, in the form of several new practices of tyranny, has been making such headway that the fundamentals of 1776 are being struck down abroad and definitely, they are threatened here.

It is, indeed, a fallacy, base on no logic at all, for any American to suggest that the rule of force can defeat human freedom in all the other parts of the world and permit it to survive in the United States alone. But it has been that childlike fantasy itself that misdirected faith which has led nation after nation to go about their peaceful tasks, relying on the thought, and even the promise, that they and their lives and their government would be allowed to live when the juggernaut of force came their way.

It is simple I could almost say simple-minded-for us Americans to wave the flag, to reassert our belief in the cause of freedom and to let it go at that.

Yet, all of us who lie awake at night all of us who study and study again know full well that in these days we cannot save freedom with pitchforks and muskets alone after a dictator combination has gained control of the rest of the world.

We know that we cannot save freedom in our own midst, in our own land, if all around us our neighbor nations have lost their freedom.

That is why we are engaged in a serious, in a mighty, in a unified action in the cause of the defense of the hemisphere and the freedom of the seas. We need not the loyalty and unity alone, we need speed and efficiency and toil and an end to backbiting, an end to the sabotage that runs far deeper than the blowing up of munitions plants.

I tell the American people solemnly that the United States will never survive as a happy and fertile oasis of liberty surrounded by a cruel desert of dictatorship.

And so it is that when we repeat the great pledge to our country and to our flag, it must be our deep conviction that we pledge as well our work, our will and, if it be necessary, our very lives.

Indeed, from the earliest celebrations, we have evidence that military displays have been part of 4th of July celebrations:

Yesterday the 4th of July, being the Anniversary of the Independence of the United States of America, was celebrated in this city with demonstration of joy and festivity. About noon all the armed ships and gallies in the river were drawn up before the city, dressed in the gayest manner, with the colours of the United States and streamers displayed. At one o’clock, the yards being properly manned, they began the celebration of the day by a discharge of thirteen cannon from each of the ships, and one from each of the thirteen gallies, in honour of the Thirteen United States. In the afternoon an elegant dinner was prepared for Congress, to which were invited the President and Supreme Executive Council, and Speaker of the Assembly of this State, the General Officers and Colonels of the army, and strangers of eminence, and the members of the several Continental Boards in town. The Hessian band of music taken in Trenton the 26th of December last, attended and heightened the festivity with some fine performances suited to the joyous occasion, while a corps of British deserters, taken into the service of the continent by the State of Georgia, being drawn up before the door, filled up the intervals with feux de joie. After dinner a number of toasts were drank, all breaking independence, and a generous love of liberty, and commemorating the memories of those brave and worthy patriots who gallantly exposed their lives, and fell gloriously in defence [sic] of freedom and the righteous cause of their country. Each toasts was followed by a discharge of artillery and small arms, and a suitable piece of music by the Hessian band. The glorious fourth of July was reiterated three times accompanied with triple discharges of cannon and small arms, and loud huzzas that resounded from street to street through the city. Towards evening several troops of horse, a corps of artillery, and a brigade of North Carolina forces, which was in town on its way to join the grand army, were drawn up in Second street and reviewed by Congress and the General Officers. The evening was closed with the ringing of bells, and at night there was a grand exhibition of fireworks, which began and concluded with thirteen rockets on the commons, and the city was beautifully illuminated. Every thing was conducted with the greatest order and decorum, and the face of joy and gladness was universal. Thus may the 4th of July, that glorious and ever memorable day, be celebrated through America, by the sons of freedom, from age to age till time shall be no more. Amen, and amen (Virginia Gazette, 18 July 1777). (emphasis added)

Now, it is perfectly within Dr. Shuggart’s right to bemoan the fact that we spend so much time wallowing in the blood, as it were (my phrase, not his), but he argues against tradition and current realities.

For it is the blood of patriots that keeps him free. Patriotism isn’t jingoism or nationalism, true. But patriotism does recognize that the soldiers who defend the interests of America abroad are those who help maintain our freedoms, some to the ultimate price. This is apparently something that a great majority of Americans throughout history have realized. I certainly feel for Dr. Shugart in his sad state this July 4.

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    1. Thank you for your response to Matt.

      Comment by Barbara — Monday, July 4, 2026 @ 7:05 pm

    2. […] Monday, July 4th, 2026 @ 8:33 pm in [ Blogging - Politics - War ]

      I respond to a post by a fellow guest blogger at Steven Taylor’s place. I’m reprinting it here for p […]

      Pingback by Arguing with signposts… » Military and the fourth — Monday, July 4, 2026 @ 7:33 pm

    3. Whoops. my own reply is a bit late, I see. Well, a bit more strident than I was going to go, but heartfelt.

      I think half of MAtt’s post held a very good point regarding other things to look at and think about on the Fourth of July. At the same time, I do not think that honoring the soldiers and their willingness to sacrifice for us is “celebrating the military” — and that is where the train leaves the tracks for me. Even if you don’t support the mission, I don’t see that respect for the soldiers themselves and an acknowledgement of what they go through is celebrating war or even the military. Flying the flag or even having a jet fly-over is not the next step toward facism — nor is it necessarily based on jingoism, imperialism, or militarism.

      “Soldiers and sailors everywhere” — oh my. The questions that flashed into my head were ‘Is that alarming? Should we not let them out in public?’ Those one or two paragraphs in the middle of the post are the ones drawing the emotional reaction, and I certainly understand the desire to answer it.

      But, let’s all try to avoid letting the emotion overshadow the points.

      Comment by Steven L. — Monday, July 4, 2026 @ 8:00 pm

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