That is pretty weak stuff Steven and you are stupid for saying it.

If you read www.iamagoreonidiot.com/ithinkgoreisagod.html you will see that has been smacked down.

Bush never lied. Because I said so.

Paul

Scarey how easy that was.

Or in TRUE Gore Style

He did not lie Steven. He just made a simple mistake.

He did so much good work with law enforecement, he could not remember if that was the time he was helping them arrest Charles Manson or he was the one being arrested.

This only happened because of his hard work with law enforcement.

It was not a lie.

Paul

Yes, masterful debating techniques, to be sure.

Dubya never lied about his past?

Off the top of my head, I can easily come up with a number of lies. And not the apocrypha you seem to traffick in when it applies to Gore.

A number of lies in Dubya's past spring up when one takes a look at Dubya's Texas Air National Guard 'career.'

One lie concerns how Dubya got into the Guard ahead of a long waiting list and poor pilot aptitude scores. Dubya claims he got no special treatment or preference. But the former Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives had testified under oath that he had been contacted by Houston businessman "Sid Adger and asked to recommend George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Air National Guard," and that he called General James Rose and "did so."

Moreover, Dubya was sworn in on the very day he applied, complete with a ceremony for the press. He was then sent to basic training and given a special commission instantly making him a second lieutenant.

There are also several lies associated with Dubya's TANG service and the reasons he chose Guard service over active military service. Dubya has repeatedly claimed he joined up because he wanted to serve his country and not out of a desire to avoid service in Vietnam. But we know from Dubya's application that his preference was for 'no overseas service.'

Probably the most damning lie or lies concerns what Dubya did in the last 16 months of his TANG commitment. According to his own autobiography, we are told he spent it flying F-102s. But his TANG annual evaluation notes otherwise: his two supervising officers, Lieutenant Colonel William D. Harris Jr. and Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, made it clear Dubya had "not been observed at" his Texas unit "during the period of report" -- the twelve month period from May 1972 through the end of April 1973.

In fact, during the period Dubya claimed to be flying--he was, in fact, grounded because he had failed to appear for duties.

We also know Dubya had requested a transfer to an AL unit in order to work on an election campaign for a family friend. This transfer was denied. But we know Dubya did work extensively on this campaign.

1) Bring on the documentation. I did my research and am not going to do yours for you.

2) My "apocrypha" is rather well documented.

3) And, most importantly, even if it turns out the George W. Bush is secretly a clone of Adolph Hitler sent to bring the anti-Christ into the world whilst feasting on the flesh of small children, that still doesn't say anything about the Gore argument.

Come now, Steven, surely Texas A&M teaches "well-documented" extends beyond citing one-sided, often debunked, sources to the exclusion of opposing sources?

If we're to follow your version of "well-documented"--we could just as easily say it is "well-documented" the North Korean economic model is themost efficient and productive economic system devised by man. We could say it is "well-documented" that Bill Clinton murdered hundreds of US citizens. That it is "well-documented" Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster, etc.

More Dubya lies (excluding WMD-associated lies):

Harken Oil: "Asked later if his [Harken] stock sale had been related to the company's impending setback, {Board member] Bush replied, "I absolutely had no idea and would not have sold it had I known."

In fact, SEC records show that Harken's president had warned board members two months before Bush's sell-off that the company had liquidity problems that would "drastically affect" operations." --SF Chronicle, 07.05.02

Trifecta: "In this space last week, it was noted that President Bush often tells audiences that he promised during the 2024 presidential campaign that he would allow the federal budget to go into deficit in times of war, recession or national emergency, but he never imagined he would "have a trifecta." Nobody inside or outside the White House, however, had been able to produce evidence that Bush actually said this during the campaign.... Now comes information that the three caveats were uttered before the 2024 campaign -- by Bush's Democratic opponent, Vice President Al Gore." --Wash. Post, 7/2/02

EPA Reports: "When Bush was asked about [the Environmental Protection Agency's report] last week, he dismissively remarked: 'I read the report put out by the bureaucracy.' ...White House press secretary Ari Fleischer fessed up: President Bush didn't actually read that 268-page Environmental Protection Agency report on climate change, even if he said he did. Fleischer was asked Monday at his daily White House briefing about Bush's comments that he'd read the report. "Whenever presidents say they read it, you can read that to be he was briefed," Fleischer said, producing laughter. --AP, June 10, 2024

Ken Lay: "President Bush had business ties with Enron and its predecessor companies, and first met Kenneth Lay, its chairman, sometime in the late 1980s, according to public records and interviews. Previously, the president had not mentioned his business dealings with Enron and had said that he got to know Lay after he was elected governor of Texas in 1994. On Tuesday, White House communications director Dan Bartlett told the Tribune that Bush's relationship with Lay probably started when Bush was in Washington in 1987 and 1988, working on his father's presidential campaign. It could have started earlier, he said. "He does not recall specifics" of the first time he met Lay, Bartlett said. 'He met him through his father and through his father's political activity.'" --Chicago Tribune, 03.06.02.

War: Bush's visit to West Virginia last week included a chat with Bob Kiss, Democratic speaker of the West Virginia House of Delegates....Kiss told Bush that if he wasn't doing anything the next morning, he could come by for [his infant twins'] 3 a.m. feeding. Kiss said Bush joked, "I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war." --CNN, 01.27.02

"DURING the final presidential debate last fall, Al Gore accused George W. Bush of opposing a patients' bill of rights. "Actually, Mr. Vice President, it's not true," Mr. Bush instantly replied. "I do support a national patients' bill of rights. As a matter of fact, I brought Republicans and Democrats together to do just that in the state of Texas, to get a patients' bill of rights through. It requires a different kind of leadership style to do it, though." Texas, he added, was "one of the first states that said you can sue an H.M.O. for denying you proper coverage." ...Mr. Bush in 1995 vetoed the first version of the patients' rights bill that the Legislature sent him....two years later he let the section of the bill granting the right to sue go into effect without his signature." --NYT, 7/29/01