A federal judge struck down a key part of the USA Patriot Act on Thursday in a ruling that defended the need for judicial oversight of laws and bashed Congress for passing a law that makes possible “far-reaching invasions of liberty.”
U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero immediately stayed the effect of his ruling, allowing the government time to appeal.
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The ACLU had challenged the law on behalf of an Internet service provider, complaining that the law allowed the FBI to demand records without the kind of court supervision required for other government searches. Under the law, investigators can issue so-called national security letters to entities like Internet service providers and phone companies and demand customers’ phone and Internet records.
A past posting on the national security letter situation can be found here and a WaPo column linked to the lawsuit in question can be found here. I would recommend that the column in particular. The situation is one that should be utterly unacceptable in the United States of the America.
All of this boils down to the fact that in the post-9/11 context that President and the Congress have been quite willing to gut judicial oversight from information gathering activities that could easily lead to private information of innocent citizens being obtained simply because the FBI wants it. That establishes a system that could very easily be abused.
Via Media Matter we have the wit and wisdom of Michael Savage, who opines on the possibility that there is a possible conspiracy to cause Chief Justice John Roberts’ seizure:
Am I to believe that there’s no connection between Charles Schumer on Friday saying that he would never appoint, or never, excuse me, approve another Bush appointment to the court, to any court? And then the chief justice suffers a so-called seizure two days later? You’re telling me there’s no possibility of a conspiracy by the Democrats to have caused this seizure in some manner? Tell me that it’s not possible. Tell me that the stakes are not so high that the liberals — who’ve finally lost the court after 50 years — that they would stop short of anything like this. Tell me it’s not possible, and I’ll tell you you’re a liar.
It gets worse, in fact:
Well, let me ask you something. You remember the Russian who ate some polonium sushi? He was going to give an interview that was embarrassing to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin? He ate a polonium sushi and then he died. Well, they do it over there when there’s a lot of money at stake, don’t they? Power at stake? What’s a human being to power-mad people and power-mad parties? Nothing.
So why can’t we assume for a moment that it’s within the realm of possibility that Roberts was in some way — his health was in some way tampered with by the Democrats because they can’t believe that no matter what they do, no matter what they do — even if they engineer a victory for Hillary Clinton/[Barack] Obama — they’re still not going to be in control because the court’s moved to the center? Just a thought. Just a tiny little thought for you to ponder tonight, all you left-wingers who are so glib in your attacks on the conservative movement.
And then back to Schumer:
so he had the nerve to say on Friday he will never, ever, ever permit another Bush appointee to get onto a court, to become a judge. Then today we read that the chief justice has had a seizure and fell on a dock? Something’s wrong with this picture.
(The full transcript and the actual audio are available at the link above.)
This is a remarkable series of statements–not to mention rather scary that this guy is the third most listened to talk radio host behind Limbaugh and Hannity.
It is bad enough that we cast our politics as some sort of team sport wherein we look more at whether “our side” scores points or not in every given interchange rather than looking at what is good for the country in a specific situation, but stuff like this is the true demonization of one of the major US political parties and is utterly poisonous (if one can forgive the reference) to political discourse.
Savage should be ignored. A kook (or genius, he makes more money than I do) who spouts kookiness nonstop.
Conservative Republicans like myself don’t count him as being on our team. He plays for himself.
Comment by Steve Plunk — Wednesday, August 1, 2024 @ 10:46 am
I must confess to having long ignored Savage. Even when I was a regular consumer of talk radio, I couldn’t stomach his commercials, let alone his program.
However, as much as I would like to think that you are correct, the bottom line is that he is the 3rd most listened-to talk radio show host out there–and his audience isn’t the Air America crowd. As such, I am not sure your assessment is correct.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, August 1, 2024 @ 10:51 am
I don’t generally go for conspiracy theories, and am not on board with Savage on this one. By far the most plausible thing to believe is that Roberts’ seizure had nothing to do with the Democrats/liberals/aliens/anyone.
However, saying a conspiracy is far less plausible than anything else is not the same as saying a conspiracy is impossible. While it is definitely not the rule in American politics (in my assessment, anyway), we would be fooling ourselves if we said that criminal actions and conspiracies never occurred at all in our government’s history, and that such things are utterly impossible.
I would not go so far as to say that it is not possible (something that would require proof of a negative that I haven’t seen) - I would, however, say the probability that he is on target is low enough to merit the dismissal of the notion.
As crazy as the idea is, I can understand somewhat how he came to it. The handling of judicial nominees by the democrats in congress has smelled foul for a long time now. When you talk about handling politics like a sporting event, things like the great judicial filibuster really come to mind to me - an example of the team not liking the way the game is going, and leaving the field in protest. And the fans love it, not realizing it’s the “game” itself that is being damaged.
That sort of tactic will only encourage the thinking displayed by Savage and supported by his listeners. The message it sends (to Mr. Savage’s team) is that the other side is clearly not playing by the rules. What follows logically is that they don’t play by any rules, and suspicion of everything sets in.
Mr. Savage is a product of his times and a symptom of a much larger disease.
Comment by Captain D. — Wednesday, August 1, 2024 @ 6:10 pm
For anyone who isn’t convinced yet that media ownership is an important issue, here’s Exhibit A. You can spin crazy, ugly conspiracy theories, and you still have your daily radio show, your book contract, your speaking engagements…
Popularity isn’t an aribiter of truth. Savage has credibility
issues, obviously.
Conspiracy theories get too many adherents as is. The truthers are another example.
This isn’t the way to respond to Schumer. Schumer is a leader in a position of power. What he says and does is more
significant than what Savage says or does.
Comment by GM — Thursday, August 2, 2024 @ 4:34 am
Wow. You have GOT to be kidding me.
Savage is tiresome, especially since he leads the charge of “THE MEXICANS ARE COMING!! HIDE THE CHILDREN AND THE FINE CHINA!!!”
I’ve heard him on a few occasions, and it is usually along the lines of “Bush isn’t conservative enough for this country. America is going down the tank because it isn’t conservative” Ummm . . . what?
I’d like some of whatever Savage is smoking, but after I have it, don’t give me a radio show.
Chief Justice John Roberts suffered a seizure at his summer home off the coast of Maine, causing him to fall, the Supreme Court said Monday.
Roberts was conscious after the fall, which happened at his vacation home near Port Clyde, Maine, Supreme Court spokeswoman Kathy Arberg told CNN.
The chief justice was taken to a nearby hospital where he is expected to stay overnight.
Roberts has “fully recovered from the incident,” and a neurological evaluation “revealed no cause for concern,” the Supreme Court said.
It sounds as if everything is ok, but the story would remain in the “developing” category, one would think.
The troubling part is that this isn’t the first such incident:
Roberts, 52, experienced a similar episode years ago. Sources close to the chief justice said Roberts suffered an unexplained seizure in 1993, soon after his first nomination to the D.C. circuit stalled in the Senate.
He did say during the confirmation hearings that he was in perfect health. I wonder if he defines perfect health the same way Cheney defines his executive and legislative roles — whatever suits his purpose? Now an insurance company would drop him like a rock for falsifying his application.
“This matter has been a fiasco. There’s no doubt about it,” said F. Lane Williamson, the chairman of the three-member disciplinary committee that stripped the veteran prosecutor of his state law license.
Ya think?
The committee found Nifong broke the state’s rules of professional conduct more than two dozen times.
“I would say there are no winners in this scenario,” said Kevin Finnerty, Collin’s father. “With that said, I think there’s closure. I think it’s appropriate and I think it’s justice.
“I think he brought it on himself.”
Again: Ya think?
This is a well-deserved punishment for Nifong, who — even if you accept his side of the story entirely — behaved egregiously.
This has been a fiasco, for the everyone involved. Those who suffered from Mike Nifong’s professional misconduct include the boys who were accused, their parents, Ms. Mangum (the accuser), the city of Durham, the Duke Community, and the state of North Carolina. There are three more people or groups who are guilty of misconduct in inciting additional racial tensions in an already explosive situation when there was no evidence to prove anything had occurred. Those are the Rev. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpston, and the Black Panthers. I believe that all of these individuals who have suffered an injustice (the boys who were accused, their parents, Ms. Mangum (the accuser), the city of Durham, the Duke Community, and the state of North Carolina) deserve as vocal and newsworthy coverage of an apology as their attack on this community when this supposed attack occurred. I believe in equality for all races, but these 3 individuals/groups are quick to point out injustices to African-Americans, but don’t apologize publicly (if at all) when they are wrong. I think the people of Durham and all of us at Duke University who have had to live through this past year being ashamed of saying where we worked or lived deserve that apology as much as anyone else. In fact, we demand it!
Comment by Pamela Branson — Saturday, June 16, 2024 @ 10:19 pm
In a landmark ruling in favor of bloggers and cyber journalists, a Santa Clara County Court defended the First Amendment rights of online journalists to protect their confidential sources, effectively giving web journalists the same protections afforded to traditional print journalists.
Apple Inc., had issued subpoenas to online tech journalists, including the publisher of AppleInsider.com and PowerPage.org, over reports the company claimed “violated California state trade secret law” which divulged so-called confidential information about not-yet released Apple products. Apple claimed the journalists were not entitled to First Amendment protections similar to those afforded to their print counterparts.
However, a California court disagreed, ruling against Apple and in favor of the defendants…
Most interesting and based on what I know of the case (which is only what I read when it first broke), the right ruling. I see no reason why a print journalist would have been able to print the story in question while someone publishing electronically would not.
The LAT has an interesting story in today’s paper about a free speech case currently before the US Supreme Court: Woman’s crusade against bar spawns free speech case. The case is about whether prior restrain orders can be issued in defamation cases. The basics have to do with the crusade of a Newport Beach woman against bar next to a cottage she owns.
The basics:
Lemen owns a cottage only feet from the restaurant and led a campaign to restrict it because she said it disrupted the neighborhood. Aric Toll, 41, a chef who bought the restaurant and bar with his parents, filed a defamation lawsuit against Lemen, saying she was ruining his business.
After a trial, a judge ordered Lemen to stop videotaping Toll’s customers and barred her from telling anyone that the bar makes sex videos, dabbles in child pornography, distributes illegal drugs, encourages lesbian activities, has mafia links, is a whorehouse or sells tainted food — all false statements, the court said, that Lemen had made. She appealed the order before it could be enforced.
Courts around the country have disagreed over whether such “prior restraint” orders in defamation cases are constitutional, and cases involving them are multiplying as people sue to stop alleged defamation on the Internet. The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld prior restraint in cases of national security and obscenity, but not in a defamation complaint. When it took up the question in a case brought by the late attorney Johnnie Cochran against a picket, the high court said only that the order against the picket was unconstitutionally broad.
Duke University constitutional law professor Erwin Chemerinsky is paying his own way to California and working free of charge to tell the California Supreme Court today that the order violates Lemen’s right to free speech.
If Lemen loses, such court orders might become “a regular remedy in defamation cases,” Chemerinsky said. Newspapers could even be barred from covering a person who won one, he said. In his view, the only appropriate remedy for defamation is monetary damages.
One needs to reads the entire piece to get a feel for the situation. One gets the impression that Lemen is, well a tad eccentric, and one wonders why some of her behavior (like sitting in front of the establishment and laying on her car horn for half an hour straight) isn’t considered harassment or at least disturbing the peace.
Still, one also wonders why, if the Village Inn believes that their business has been damaged that they can’t put a monetary value on the damages.
I certainly would think that Lemen could be ordered to stop making videotapes and taking still pictures of the customers. Indeed, it seems like there ought to be a legal remedy to her behavior outside of the issue of speech. I am guessing the fact that she owns property adjacent to the Inn makes a restraining order a moot option.
Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas, who blocked the confirmation of a woman to the federal bench because she attended a same-sex commitment ceremony for the daughter of her long-time neighbors, says he will now allow a vote on the nomination.
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Mr. Brownback said that he believed Judge Neff’s attendance at the 2024 ceremony merited further investigation, but that he had not meant to set any precedent with his proposal. “It was the last day of the session and I was just trying to provide some accommodation to see if we could make this thing go forward,” he said.
He said that “this is a big hot-button issue” and that Judge Neff had not made it clear that her presence at the ceremony did not mean she could not rule without bias in deciding cases involving same-sex unions. “I’d like to know more factually about what took place,” he said.
Of course, by this logic if a nominees’ neighbor’s son got into college based on affirmative action, and the nominee went to the child’s graduation they should be considered suspect for the bench because they might be predisposed to having a more favorable view of racial preferences. If a nominee’s niece had an abortion, then wouldn’t that be a red flag as well? Of course, if a nominee is religious, does that mean that they cannot rule on church/state matters? Oh wait, atheists couldn’t rule either! What to do?
Either Brownback was pandering to the hardcore social conservative base with the block, has serious problems with homosexuals in general, or has a very odd view about what can make a nominee unfit for the bench. Regardless of which is the right answer, I don’t find that any of them impress me in regards to Brownback’s capacity to be a serious contender for the GOP presidential nomination in 2024.
More:The Carpetbagger Report notes some hypocrisy in Brownback’s willingness to deny an up-or-down vote and Peter Lattman, posting at the WSJ’s Law Blog provides a few additional details.
Basically, a restaurant was trying to block another restaurant from moving into a shopping center because:
Panera has a clause in its lease that prevents the White City Shopping Center in Shrewsbury from renting to another sandwich shop. Panera tried to invoke that clause to stop the opening of an Qdoba Mexican Grill.
Panera is one of my favorite places, but please, the judge is correct: a burrito ain’t a sandwich.
Panera is one of my favorite places, but please, the judge is correct: a burrito ain’t a sandwich.
How about those “wraps” that are so popular these days? Is a wrap a sandwich?
Comment by Ratoe — Monday, November 13, 2024 @ 1:34 pm
Oh, the complicated issues we tackle here at PoliBlog!
Well, I know it isn’t a burrito.
I am going to say that a wrap is a wrap, not a sandwich.
But then again, I am just a consumer and not a lawyer
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Monday, November 13, 2024 @ 2:06 pm
I think it is going out on a limb to try to call a burrito a sandwich. If what they really wanted was no other fast food restaurants that’s what they should have gotten in their lease.
And you are correct. Panera Rocks!
Comment by Jan — Monday, November 13, 2024 @ 3:03 pm
Comment by murray — Monday, November 13, 2024 @ 5:45 pm
Among them was Cambridge chef Chris Schlesinger, who said in an affidavit: “I know of no chef or culinary historian who would call a burrito a sandwich. Indeed, the notion would be absurd to any credible chef or culinary historian.”
Best use of an affidafit EVER.
Comment by B. Minich — Monday, November 13, 2024 @ 9:38 pm
I love case law. I pray that someday, somewhere, for some reason, I am in an argument over whether or not a burrito is a sandwhiche.
“Of course a burrito is a sandwhiche. What gave you the idea that it wasn’t?”
“Well, the Massachussetts Superior Court actually ruled on this, and you’re wrong.”
“Ha ha. Very funny.”
“No, really… I’m serious.”
Any chance this will be appealed to the US Supreme Court?
Comment by Dan — Tuesday, November 14, 2024 @ 7:22 am
Now I personally hold that a burrito is not a sandwich, but what about a quesadila? It is almost exactly like a panini only with a flour shell instead of bread. Maybe Panera went about the case all wrong.
Comment by Lisa — Tuesday, November 14, 2024 @ 7:32 am
I thought about the quesadilla angle too. It does seem closer to a sandwich than a burrito. Still a bit of a stretch though, in my opinion.
Comment by Jan — Tuesday, November 14, 2024 @ 10:05 am
Saying times have changed, New Jersey’s highest court on Wednesday guaranteed gay couples the same rights as married heterosexuals but left it to state lawmakers to decide if such unions can be called marriage.
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the court gave the legislature six months to either amend the state’s marriage statutes to include gay people, or write a new law in which same-sex couples “would enjoy the rights of civil marriage.”
New Jersey’s marriage statutes define marriage as being between a man and a woman.
The ruling leaves state lawmakers with two options — allow gays to marry in the same way as others, or develop a parallel system of unions for same-sex couples. That second option would leave New Jersey with civil unions akin to those in Vermont.
This is hardly surprising and, quite frankly, the entire situation should be seen as inevitable.
The opponents of same-sex marriage would have been smarter to have pushed civil unions in an attempt to reserve the term “marriage” to heterosexual couples, preserving at least a legal figleaf protecting the concept. As it stands, the equal protection issues inherent in the debate are going to drive courts to continue to make these types of decisions.
Of course, as I think I have noted before, regardless of the legalities of it all, one cannot legislate the usage of vocabulary, and no doubt even same-sex civil unions would be called “marriage” in popular parlance. To see what I am talking about, note Secretary Rice’s usage of the term “mother-in-law” in official remarks at the State Department wherein she refers to the mother of Mark Dybul’s partner as his “mother-in-law.”
Ultimately if people of the same gender wish to be legally bound to one another, I am not sure what the tremendous social harm is supposed to be.
The opponents of same-sex marriage would have been smarter to have pushed civil unions in an attempt to reserve the term “marriage” to heterosexual couples, preserving at least a legal figleaf protecting the concept.
More precisely, the opponents should have minded their own business. Why anyone would be against equal protection under the law and two people committing to a lifelong monogomous relationship and is beyond the realm of rational thinking.
Comment by Ratoe — Wednesday, October 25, 2024 @ 4:38 pm
I appreciate your candor, but the social harm in legalized gay marriage lies in the damage it does to our national values. Or, more to the point, the assertion it makes that there are no national values, only cold logic. Cold logic based on what we know may not reveal any ready reasons why gay relationships are inherently immoral, but values don’t spring from cold logic. And it’s our values that have always made us great.
Of course, our national values are changing, and public policy will always follow those changes. So while I oppose recognition of what I consider to be immoral relationships and participate in opposition to them, I also know that the most important battle should be at the level of public morality. If that can’t be helped, legalized gay marriage is just a few votes away.
Comment by David Hinckley — Wednesday, October 25, 2024 @ 4:49 pm
Steven,
After a couple of years of gay marriage in Mass and civil unions in Vermont and Connecticut, the Northeast certainly does not see this as a particularly big deal — and I think that is also becoming the national consensus. Let homoesexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals, but if possible protect the “institution” of marriage.
I think that most people will greet this with a shrug, and those most opposed will be those who believe that homosexuality is immoral to begin with. Once you jump the immorality hurdle, it is far easier jump to recognizing that committed same sex couples should enjoy equal rights.
Comment by SoloD — Wednesday, October 25, 2024 @ 5:17 pm
I appreciate your candor, but the social harm in legalized gay marriage lies in the damage it does to our national values.
Listen, if you are really concerned with “national values,” there are many more pressing instances of the break down of “national values” than this issue.
When our Congress and President embrace torture and the erosion of basic civil liberties, for instance, we can identify much larger affronts to “national values.”
In fact, to the extent that this ruling asserts equality before the law, then we should consider this a great celebration of the principles of individualism that form the philosophical basis of our republic.
Government-sactioned torture and kidnapping and a total disregard for the rule of law by the Executive branch are the substance of constitutional crisis.
Two people getting married is utterly meaningless in the current crisis of values that we see from the radicals who currently occupy significant positions of power in the country.
Comment by Ratoe — Wednesday, October 25, 2024 @ 5:34 pm
While there may be little harm done to society it is reasonable to expect people to object to thousands of years of society’s norms to be cast aside in a few short years.
What societal norms could be done away with next if we base all of our decisions on “cold logic” as Mr. Hinckley said?
I would argue this should have been decided in the political arena not in the courts who are bound by logic to make some poor decisions.
Comment by Steven Plunk — Wednesday, October 25, 2024 @ 5:43 pm
While there may be little harm done to society it is reasonable to expect people to object to thousands of years of society’s norms to be cast aside in a few short years.
What societal norms could be done away with next if we base all of our decisions on “cold logic” as Mr. Hinckley said?
Yeah, you’re right. Lets get rid of women and blacks voting while we’re at it. Maybe bring back slavery, as well–it’ll sure help the unemployment figures.
Comment by Ratoe — Wednesday, October 25, 2024 @ 6:04 pm
Throwing in minorities and women doesn’t advance your argument. Many still see gay behavior as a choice, not something a person is born as. This is seen as a fundamental difference between rights affoded to women and minorities and the rights that the gay community atr lobbying for.
Marriage is different from those others rights as well. The cultural and societal norms concerning marriage included women and minorities. Most minorities fail to see any connection between the civil rights struggle they endured and the current gay marriage controversy.
I’m simply explaining why there is resistance to this idea. If proponents of gay marriage fail to see it I doubt they can develope a strategy yo overcome it and attain their goals.
Again I must object to the rhetorical tactic of equating opposition to gay marriage as homophobic, racist and sexist all at the same time. Painting rational opponents of any policy with such a broad stroke reveals weakness in the proponents stance.
Comment by Steven Plunk — Thursday, October 26, 2024 @ 12:23 pm
Throwing in minorities and women doesn’t advance your argument. Many still see gay behavior as a choice
My response was to your point championing the persistence of “societal norms.” Slavery and the male franchise were societal norms for hundreds of years. The point is that norms change.
Secondly, on “gay behavior being a choice”–that is irrelevant. The issue here is marriage. Marriage for anyone is a choice. The problem resolved by the NJ case is that the state–in the case at hand–discriminates on the basis of the plaintiffs’ gender. That is fundamentally anti-individual and an affront to civil liberties–two of the basic philosophical elements underpinning our democratic system.
Comment by Ratoe — Thursday, October 26, 2024 @ 3:18 pm
The Bush administration can continue its warrantless surveillance program while it appeals a judge’s ruling that the program is unconstitutional, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.
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The unanimous ruling from a three-judge panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals gave little explanation for the decision. In the three-paragraph ruling, judges said that they balanced the likelihood an appeal would succeed, the potential damage to both sides and the public interest.
This isn’t especially surprising, nor will it be so if the 6th Circuit overturns the lower court’s ruling.
Savage should be ignored. A kook (or genius, he makes more money than I do) who spouts kookiness nonstop.
Conservative Republicans like myself don’t count him as being on our team. He plays for himself.
Comment by Steve Plunk — Wednesday, August 1, 2024 @ 10:46 am
I must confess to having long ignored Savage. Even when I was a regular consumer of talk radio, I couldn’t stomach his commercials, let alone his program.
However, as much as I would like to think that you are correct, the bottom line is that he is the 3rd most listened-to talk radio show host out there–and his audience isn’t the Air America crowd. As such, I am not sure your assessment is correct.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, August 1, 2024 @ 10:51 am
I don’t generally go for conspiracy theories, and am not on board with Savage on this one. By far the most plausible thing to believe is that Roberts’ seizure had nothing to do with the Democrats/liberals/aliens/anyone.
However, saying a conspiracy is far less plausible than anything else is not the same as saying a conspiracy is impossible. While it is definitely not the rule in American politics (in my assessment, anyway), we would be fooling ourselves if we said that criminal actions and conspiracies never occurred at all in our government’s history, and that such things are utterly impossible.
I would not go so far as to say that it is not possible (something that would require proof of a negative that I haven’t seen) - I would, however, say the probability that he is on target is low enough to merit the dismissal of the notion.
As crazy as the idea is, I can understand somewhat how he came to it. The handling of judicial nominees by the democrats in congress has smelled foul for a long time now. When you talk about handling politics like a sporting event, things like the great judicial filibuster really come to mind to me - an example of the team not liking the way the game is going, and leaving the field in protest. And the fans love it, not realizing it’s the “game” itself that is being damaged.
That sort of tactic will only encourage the thinking displayed by Savage and supported by his listeners. The message it sends (to Mr. Savage’s team) is that the other side is clearly not playing by the rules. What follows logically is that they don’t play by any rules, and suspicion of everything sets in.
Mr. Savage is a product of his times and a symptom of a much larger disease.
Comment by Captain D. — Wednesday, August 1, 2024 @ 6:10 pm
For anyone who isn’t convinced yet that media ownership is an important issue, here’s Exhibit A. You can spin crazy, ugly conspiracy theories, and you still have your daily radio show, your book contract, your speaking engagements…
Comment by Kingdaddy — Wednesday, August 1, 2024 @ 7:40 pm
Popularity isn’t an aribiter of truth. Savage has credibility
issues, obviously.
Conspiracy theories get too many adherents as is. The truthers are another example.
This isn’t the way to respond to Schumer. Schumer is a leader in a position of power. What he says and does is more
significant than what Savage says or does.
Comment by GM — Thursday, August 2, 2024 @ 4:34 am
Wow. You have GOT to be kidding me.
Savage is tiresome, especially since he leads the charge of “THE MEXICANS ARE COMING!! HIDE THE CHILDREN AND THE FINE CHINA!!!”
I’ve heard him on a few occasions, and it is usually along the lines of “Bush isn’t conservative enough for this country. America is going down the tank because it isn’t conservative” Ummm . . . what?
I’d like some of whatever Savage is smoking, but after I have it, don’t give me a radio show.
Comment by B. Minich — Thursday, August 2, 2024 @ 6:44 pm