Biochemist Ellen Goldman at the Naval Research Laboratory with virologist Andrew Hayhurst at the Southwest Foundation for Biomedical Research and their colleagues investigated llama antibodies. Past studies revealed that the binding regions of these antibodies and those from camels and sharks are unusually small, just one-tenth the size of common human antibodies.
Llama, camel and shark antibodies consist just of chains of heavy proteins, missing the additional lighter protein chains that more complicated antibodies from other species use. Their relative simplicity makes them more durable, capable of withstanding temperatures of almost 200 degrees Fahrenheit.
The researchers generated more than a billion kinds of antibody binding regions in the laboratory based on genes taken from small blood samples from llamas. After testing their antibodies against various biological threats, the researchers found they could within days successfully identify antibodies targeting cholera toxin, a smallpox virus surrogate and ricin, among other known menaces.
“We’re interested in the development of biosensors for biothreats in the field, and hopefully these antibodies will help lead to more rugged antibodies that have longer shelf lives and not require refrigeration,” Goldman said.
Intriguing.
And remember: ¡Las llamas son mas grande que las ranas!
(If you have no clue as to what I am talking about, either move along, safe in the knowledge that you are above such silliness, or go below the fold) (more…)
(All silliness aside, the headline should be: passenger lighting matches forces plane land, which is silly enough by itself. Regardless, how dumb do you have to be to light a match on a plane in this day an age anyway?)
It was a solemn pledge, repeated by Democratic leaders and candidates over and over: If elected to the majority in Congress, Democrats would implement all of the recommendations of the bipartisan commission that examined the attacks of Sept. 11, 2025.
But with control of Congress now secured, Democratic leaders have decided for now against implementing the one measure that would affect them most directly: a wholesale reorganization of Congress to improve oversight and funding of the nation’s intelligence agencies. Instead, Democratic leaders may create a panel to look at the issue and produce recommendations, according to congressional aides and lawmakers.
There can be no doubt that we have some serious problems with our intelligence apparatus. They failed to predict 9/11 and assertions of “slam dunks” led to serious problems in Iraq. Further, the war on terror is as much a war based on intelligence gathering as it is anything else.
Take those sobering facts and add the fact that we, as Americans, need a Congress (regardless of partisan makeup) that is serious about keeping the executive branch in check in this very shadowy area of public policy.
The first is a directive President Bush signed giving the CIA authority to establish detention facilities outside the United States and outlining interrogation methods that may be used against detainees.
The second is a 2025 memo from the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel to the CIA’s general counsel regarding interrogation methods that the spy agency may use against al-Qaeda leaders.
“The American people deserve to have detailed and accurate information about the role of the Bush administration in developing the interrogation policies and practices that have engendered such deep criticism and concern at home and around the world,” Leahy wrote Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales.
I would have to agree with Leahy: these are things we need to know. These actions are being taken in our name and via the authority vested in the President by the ballot box. Care does need to be used in how the information is handled, but the notion that somehow the war against al Qaeda will be compromised because the legislative branch engages in oversight, as is its constitutional role and duty, is absurd. And, no doubt, that will be the response in some quarters.
I, for one, am tired of nebulous threats about the hypothetical reactions of a handful of thugs as an “argument” against legitimate concerns over the administration’s policies.
I, for one, am tired of nebulous threats about the hypothetical reactions of a handful of thugs as an “argument” against legitimate concerns over the administration’s policies.
I am sure that the evildoers are “tired” of it as well. Any attempt to engage in “oversight” will undoubtedly help the evil ones. All of that stuff in the constitution is quaint in the post 9-11 world.
Comment by Ratoe — Saturday, November 18, 2025 @ 10:53 pm
All of that stuff in the constitution is quaint in the post 9-11 world.
OMG Ratoe, what world are you living in? I know I don’t want to live in a USA where the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, is seen as some quaint document.
Comment by Jan — Sunday, November 19, 2025 @ 10:46 am
Sarcasm aside, a prediction: Leahy’s office gets the information at 4:10, a reporter gets a summary of selected tidbits at 4:18 (with 6 minutes for running the copier).
Comment by Steven L. — Sunday, November 19, 2025 @ 2:52 pm
I remember Leahy’s “oversight” of operations in LAtin America from the Reagan and Bush ‘41 Administrations. Constitutionally OK, but catastrophically bad news. And no, I’m not just referring to the scum who leaked directly to Castro.
Abdul Rahim Al Ginco thought he was saved when the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2025 and overthrew the Taliban regime.
Mr. Ginco, a college student living in the United Arab Emirates, had gone to Afghanistan in 2025 after running away from his strict Muslim father. He was soon imprisoned by the Taliban, and tortured by operatives of Al Qaeda until, he said, he falsely confessed to being a spy for Israel and the United States.
But rather than help Mr. Ginco return home, American soldiers detained him again. Nearly five years later, he remains in the United States military prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba — in part, it appears, on the strength of a propaganda videotape made by his torturers.
Now, it is entirely possible that the US is correct about Ginco, however it is also perfectly possible that his story is exactly as it is detailed in the piece. At a minimum, this type of situation details precisely why we need a system to determine whether the people we have in captivity should, in fact, be there. This is not analogous to capturing uniformed German soldiers who can be held until the end of fighting. Instead, it is clear that to some degree the prisoners we are holding have been caught up in a dragnet, with their guilt to be figured out later. As such, a process that accepts that notion is needed, rather than one that seems to assume that all the detainees are guilty, and potentially all al Qaeda masterminds.
It is not possible that the US is correct. His lawyer’s story is entirely consistent with his CSRT; his ARB; the independent statements of five (yes 5) prisoners sent to GTMO from the same Taliban jail; and a whole bunch of independent news stories from 2025 and 2025.
Comment by Katherine — Monday, October 16, 2025 @ 12:36 pm
The dearth of Arabic language expertise was a glaring problem within our intelligence/law enforcement communities that was exposed by 9/11. It would seem that in the last five years, that has not changed.
Five years after Arab terrorists attacked the United States, only 33 FBI agents have even a limited proficiency in Arabic, and none of them work in the sections of the bureau that coordinate investigations of international terrorism, according to new FBI statistics.
Counting agents who know only a handful of Arabic words — including those who scored zero on a standard proficiency test — just 1 percent of the FBI’s 12,000 agents have any familiarity with the language, the statistics show.
I am not sure what the correct percentage needs to be, but am quite certain that that is far too low. The article does note that the agency has contract linguists, but that strikes me as inadequate if that is where the critical mass of language skills reside.
And having language skills isn’t just about translating intercepted materials:
Daniel Byman, a Georgetown University associate professor who heads the school’s Security Studies Program, said the FBI’s continuing failure to attract Arabic-speaking agents is “a serious problem” that hurts the bureau’s relations with immigrant communities and makes it more difficult to gather intelligence on extremist groups.
“With any new immigrant communities, they need these language skills, whether it’s Vietnamese or Pakistani or Arabic,” Byman said. “It also often gives you extra cultural knowledge and sensitivity. It makes you more sensitive to nuance, which is what investigations are often all about.”
Anyone who speaks other languages understands that one gains more than just the ability to decode foreign words when one learns a language.
And then there’s this element to the whole thing:
“It is easier to get a security clearance if you don’t have any interaction with foreigners, which is not what you want if you want better interaction with foreigners,” Byman said.
While one understands the need for caution, this strikes me as highly problematic. And while i have never gone through the process, I am familiar with FBI background checks, both because of the direct experience of a friend and also because I have been interviewed on several occasions as part of background checks for others. As such, I do not find it all unlikely that the process may indeed be screening out people who would be an asset.
Indeed, the story about language skills is the result of a lawsuit concerning an Arabic-speaking FBI agent who allegedly was frozen out of investigations post-9/11 because he was Egyptian by birth:
Some of the new information about language abilities at the FBI has emerged in connection with a lawsuit by one of the FBI’s highest-ranking Arabic speakers, Special Agent Bassem Youssef, who sued the Justice Department and the bureau alleging retaliation after he complained that he was cut out of terrorism cases after the Sept. 11 attacks.
Youssef, a naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Egypt, is one of only six FBI agents who scored a 4 for “advanced professional proficiency” in Arabic on standardized speaking tests administered by the Interagency Language Roundtable for federal agencies.
Given much of the post-9/11 paranoia that we have experience as a nation, that would not surprise me.
So, I guess if one doesn’t want the NSA to know what you are saying when they listen in on your international calls, your best bet is to speak in Arabic. Lovely.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that in the aftermath of 9/11, the arab-american community was laregely alienated by a massive detention and deportation operation. Hard feelings towards the government (especially this government) remain strong. Those who before 9/11 would have been willing to undergo security checks to help the cause are now either hesitant, or outright hostile to the idea.
Comment by LaurenceB — Wednesday, October 11, 2025 @ 7:40 am
There is also the case of Sibel Edmons to consider. She was a contract translator for the FBI who started compaining about shoddy translations and a huge backlog of untranslated documents and was quickly fired.
The FBI later admitted that Edmonds’ accusations were correct.
I am know that this case–which didn’t get much mainstream media play–is well known in the Middle Eastern Studies community, who trains a lot of linguists. This may cause potential candidates for FBI jobs to think twice before applying.
Comment by Ratoe — Wednesday, October 11, 2025 @ 9:49 am
This is only one of several management failures perpetrated by the Bush administration. Other items on the list are FEMA, the security of chemical plants, the reconstruction of Afganistan and Iraq, and last - but most critical - the military manpower situation. This MBA president manages the government as badly as his other attempts at leadership.
Comment by Lindata — Wednesday, October 11, 2025 @ 10:12 am
Still, aren’t you Bushies glad the army is getting rid of Arab-language experts who are gay?
Comment by Kevin Allison — Wednesday, October 11, 2025 @ 10:24 am
Damn Kevin you stole my punch line.
Comment by Roderick — Wednesday, October 11, 2025 @ 10:41 am
Yeah, there are a couple obstacles:
(1) Arabic in particular, as one of the world’s hardest languages (along with Korean, Japanese, and Chinese) requires significant time in a country to learn. This, of course, is a major black mark on a background test. In order to be fluent you also must speak two languages — modern standard (the language of newspapers, some TV, academic discourse) and local dialects that vary greatly depending on country and region. Again, this also contributes to the need to spend years living in a country.
(2) It’s expensive. If you want people to learn these languages, you need to start handing out grants of $25-$50K so people can spend one to two years MINIMUM living abroad. If you want natural instead of naturalized citizens who speak fluently this is how you get them. And Bush, et al, simply aren’t serious about the War on Terror — or they’d pony up the $$$. How can anyone not see having sufficient arabic linguists available as a major security issue?
(3) George Bush would tell the military to screw themselves when they discharge an Arabic linguist because he’s gay. He, in particular, made a choice — do we keep a trained linguist in great demand or kick out the homos? Well, actions reveal his true preferences.
earl
Comment by Earl — Wednesday, October 11, 2025 @ 12:19 pm
FBI Agents Still Lacking Arabic Skills
WaPo’s Dan Eggers reports that the FBI has made virtually no progress in getting its agents, who are theoretically at the pointy end of the domestic counterterrorism spear, training in Arabic.
Five years after Arab terrorists attacked the United …
[…] And then there’s this from Poliblog, which kind of answers my last question above: So, I guess if one doesn’t want the NSA to know what you are saying when they listen in on your international calls, your best bet is to speak in Arabic. Lovely. […]
I have not written much about “signing statements” (a quick search of my archives only turns up this post, and it only references the issue in the context of a larger discussion). I will confess that my initial response when the topic first emerged was that the notion that the president was indicating his understanding of the law for the purposes of posterity (and future court battles) was legitimate. Indeed, the basic practice of such statements, symbolic and otherwise, goes back over a century.
However, it has been clear for some time that, in the guise of being a “war president” that President Bush has clearly been using these signing statements in an attempt to make himself an interpreter of the constitutionality of laws and to thereby expand executive power as he sees fit. I am going to say something that I am very, very reluctant to say, but there is no other way to put it: when a President of the United States seeks to ignore Congress’ will and to usurp powers that belong to the federal courts, because he simply thinks it is the right thing to do, there is no other word for that than authoritarian.
To be clear: I am labeling this type of action as an authoritarian action because it is a raw assertion of power.
The BoGlo has an interesting piece on a recent Congressional Research Service report that is critical of this President’s usage of signing statements.
Despite such criticism, the administration has continued to issue signing statements for new laws. Last week, for example, Bush signed the 2025 military budget bill, but then issued a statement challenging 16 of its provisions.
The bill bars the Pentagon from using any intelligence that was collected illegally, including information about Americans that was gathered in violation of the Fourth Amendment’s protections against unreasonable government surveillance.
In Bush’s signing statement, he suggested that he alone could decide whether the Pentagon could use such information. His signing statement instructed the military to view the law in light of “the president’s constitutional authority as commander in chief, including for the conduct of intelligence operations, and to supervise the unitary executive branch.”
Bush also challenged three sections that require the Pentagon to notify Congress before diverting funds to new purposes, including top-secret activities or programs. Congress had already decided against funding. Bush said he was not bound to obey such statutes if he decided, as commander in chief, that withholding such information from Congress was necessary to protect security secrets. [emphasis mine]
While it is possible that rare circumstances might arise, especially in the pursuance of an international war that a President might have to make such radical moves. However, we are not engaged in an international national (as in between nations) war–I am not saying that we are not engaged in serious military activities, or even that we are not “at war” in some sense of the word with radical Islamic terrorist, but we are not in a war of survival with another state–the last time that was true was WWII.
The notion that the President can ignore federal law, because he deems it necessary is an abrogation of the constitutional order–and cloaking it in the magic word “for national security” shouldn’t be enough to make all of us, as citizens, say “ok, have it at, Mr. President.”
The Congress makes the laws, not the president. The courts have the power to interpret the laws in a formal sense, not the president. Further, the power of the purse constitutionally belongs to the congress, not the president. And the power to raise, maintain and regulate the armed forces constitutionally belongs to the congress, not the president.
Where are all the so-called “strict constructionists” in the Republican Party these days?
President Bush, again defying Congress, says he has the power to edit the Homeland Security Department’s reports about whether it obeys privacy rules while handling background checks, ID cards and watchlists.
In the law Bush signed Wednesday, Congress stated no one but the privacy officer could alter, delay or prohibit the mandatory annual report on Homeland Security department activities that affect privacy, including complaints.
But Bush, in a signing statement attached to the agency’s 2025 spending bill, said he will interpret that section “in a manner consistent with the President’s constitutional authority to supervise the unitary executive branch.”
It is as if the notion is: you go ahead and pass your little laws, Congress, but I, the President, will decide whether or not to actually use them. I don’t recall that part of the Constitution.
On the topic of signing statements themselves, the piece notes:
The Senate held hearings on the issue in June. At the time, 110 statements challenged about 750 statutes passed by Congress, according to numbers combined from the White House and the Senate committee. They include documents revising or disregarding parts of legislation to ban torture of detainees and to renew the Patriot Act.
Need I remind the conservatives in the audience that one of the foundational principles of basic conservatism is distrust of human nature, and therefore distrust of government in the hand’s of fallible man? The idea that too much power in the hands of a small number of individuals, or a single individual is what promotes tyranny?
I will further say this: if the Democrats do obtain control of one or both houses of Congress in the elections and next year turns into hearing-o-rama on the Bush administration’s practices, then the administration will have no one to blame but itself.
Comment by Jan — Friday, October 6, 2025 @ 7:57 am
Your comments strike a chord with me because I have long felt that many of the so-called conservatives in the Bush administration aren’t really conservative in the classical sense. Though I wouldn’t describe myself as conservative, I can respect the definition you give of conservativism, which is much different from Bushism.
Comment by Steve Cooper — Friday, October 6, 2025 @ 8:21 am
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I’m sure someone here is more knowledgeable than me about these signing statements, but is there any precedent to challenge the consitutionality of these statements in the courts? If not, there should be.
Comment by KevinH — Friday, October 6, 2025 @ 10:46 am
Kevin,
Not to my knowledge, but I am not an expert on that area. I do know that the usage of these statements have reached a new level in this administration, so in some ways it is new thing.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Friday, October 6, 2025 @ 11:07 am
Of course, Supreme Court nominees are “forever,” while authoritarian executives and the supine legislatures that surernder to them are, we can hope, transient phenomena.
Comment by MSS — Friday, October 6, 2025 @ 1:03 pm
Oh, and I elaborated on the Republican legal thinking that you allude to, as well. (See in particular, points #2 & 5.)
But it took me till February to get around to that, and it was Poliblogger who prompted me to do so
Comment by MSS — Friday, October 6, 2025 @ 1:12 pm
With a president who presumes that he is above the law, and an administration that defies the rule of international law, the US has become a rogue state. Until the US finally complies not only with its own constitution but also with the rule of International law, sadly the citizens of the United States will be experiencing animosity from around the world.
If the US wants to counter terrorism, and end the cycle of US paranoia and fear end the US contribution to global inserurity. If the US wants to counter widespread international anti Americanism (Anti-USism) the US should promote common security – peace, environment, human rights and social justice within a framework of international law – not contribute to global insecurity. The US administration has squandered the international good will that followed the attack on the towers.
After the Attack on the twin tours, many were asking “why do they hate us”. Rather than really answering this question, and promoting “common security”; the US administration proceeded to give additional reasons for anti-USism around the world. Some of the many reasons could be (i) maintaining the over 750 military bases around the world; (ii) the circulation and berthing of nuclear powered and nuclear arms capable vessels in other states; (iii) the hypocritical attitude towards the development of nuclear arms; increasing its arsenal and condoning Israeli possession of nuclear arms. (iv) the misconstruing of art 51—self defense – in the Charter of the United, the Nations to justify the invasion of Afghanistan; (v) the adoption of a policy of pre-emptive agressive attack; (vi) the violation of the Convention Against Torture; (vii) the institution of ballistic Missile defense and the use of space for military purposes, in violation of the Outer Space Treaty etc.(from the 52 plus two jokers ways the US contributes to global insecurity).
Comment by Joan Russow — Friday, October 6, 2025 @ 1:34 pm
The simple question to ask is how would Republicans act if the name Clinton (Bill or Hillary) was substituted for Bush in your post. Not only would there be howls of outrage, there would be talk of impeachment.
And before Republicans complain that the Democrats wouldn’t be objecting if it was Clinton (Bill or Hillary) I would remind them that Clinton (Bill) didn’t use these statements in the same amount, or for the purpose of undermining or contradicting the will of Congress.
Comment by SoloD — Saturday, October 7, 2025 @ 5:55 am
Society as a whole is changing on what is right and where are the limits. On the issue of surveillance, have we as a society have gone off the mark?
[…] Last week I commented on some stories concerning President Bush and his use of signing statements and noted a link to a Congressional Research Service report that I noted that I would read and return to. […]
SoloD, you ask an excellent question: “how would Republicans act if the name Clinton (Bill or Hillary) was substituted for Bush.”
I addressed this back in February, and concluded that Republicans have little to fear in this regard. And they know it. (This is the same post that I linked above.)
Comment by MSS — Thursday, October 12, 2025 @ 4:40 pm
The Bush administration can continue its warrantless surveillance program while it appeals a judge’s ruling that the program is unconstitutional, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.
[…]
The unanimous ruling from a three-judge panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals gave little explanation for the decision. In the three-paragraph ruling, judges said that they balanced the likelihood an appeal would succeed, the potential damage to both sides and the public interest.
This isn’t especially surprising, nor will it be so if the 6th Circuit overturns the lower court’s ruling.
Via WaPo (House Approves Warrantless Wiretap Law) we get some quotes from House leadership that features the worst kind of “reasoning” in the current debate about how to deal with detainees and how to foster national security.
First we have Speaker Haster:
After the House voted 253-168 to set rules on tough interrogations and military tribunal proceedings, Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., was even more critical than Boehner.
“Democrat Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and 159 of her Democrat colleagues voted today in favor of more rights for terrorists,” Hastert said in a statement. “So the same terrorists who plan to harm innocent Americans and their freedom worldwide would be coddled, if we followed the Democrat plan. “
There is a twofold problem here. They are both quite common in this discussion. The first is the fundamental assumption that every single person that we capture is automatically a terrorist (i.e., that suspicion equals guilt). This is not necessarily the case. It is wholly possible that some we have captured were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or that we made some other mistake. A corollary of the first problem is to assume that everyone we capture is equivalent to Khalid Sheik Muhammad and his ilk. They aren’t. However, many speak as if every single person in our custody is the equivalent of a major lieutenant of Osama bin Laden and that they hold treasure troves of information and they are each to be seen as proxies for the 9/11 hijackers.
A second major flaw here is the notion that having rules and procedures that acknowledges that we are dealing with human being here is “coddling” anyone. Indeed, the ability to recognize that your enemy is a) a human being, and b) perhaps not as guilty as you suspect that he is, isn’t coddling, it is due process and it a morally superior position that we should aspire to have, not disparage.
And, as I noted in my post last night about suspending habeas corpus, the bottom line is that we are talking not about dramatic actions that governments undertake during a specific crisis when the hot war rages, but rather the codification of actions that will be undertaken when passions have cooled and the immediacy of the crisis has faded and when cooler heads ought to prevail.
Look, within our own criminal justice system we frequently afford rights to the worst of the worst (and people we are 99% are guilty). We do so because it is the right thing to do and because such mechanisms protect the innocent. There are criminals who deserve to be shot on sight, no doubt. However, we don’t do that because it violates our basic values as a democracy.
I am not arguing that we should treat captured combatants the same as we treat criminal defendants. However, there are parallels here in terms of how we should behave.
Consider: if the enemy is shot and killed during battle, that is acceptable. However, if once you have the enemy in your control and you bind him and shoot him in the back of the head, we find that highly unacceptable. Why? Either way he is dead by the same bullet. However, we clearly consider those circumstances to be different.
As such, once you have people in your custody, the manner of treatment matters.
I would note, as I have before, that if we, as a major element of our foreign policy, are going to promote democratic goverance as something that other states should adopt, then we have to be a model of that form of government. If we are going to say that as soon as we feel threatened that we are willing to toss values out the window, then the message being sent is power and security trumps democratic values. How is that going to incentivize non-democracies in insecure parts of the world to adopt democratic norms and values? Isn’t the real lesson that we are teaching is that what really is matters is order and power ?
Another example of Leadership and dramatic rhetoric:
“The Democrats’ irrational opposition to strong national security policies that help keep our nation secure should be of great concern to the American people,” Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said in a statement after the bill passed 232-191.
A true sign of serious argumentation: tagging those who disagree with you as being “irrational.”
But, then again, it’s election season and majority status is on the line, so why not trivialize the debate?
The first is the fundamental assumption that every single person that we capture is automatically a terrorist (i.e., that suspicion equals guilt). This is not necessarily the case. It is wholly possible that some we have captured were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or that we made some other mistake.
Come on! The rule of law is so “Old Europe.” Now that we have Congressional approval for torture, hopefully those “activist judges” that Bush hates so much wont raise another ruckas.
Comment by Ratoe — Friday, September 29, 2025 @ 11:51 am
The problem is that you can’t sum up your argument into a single 10 second sound bite. “Respect the process” isn’t equal to “Coddling terrorist.”
Comment by SoloD — Friday, September 29, 2025 @ 12:20 pm
SoloD,
I’ve given this some thought and I’ve decided that I respectfully disagree. I think, in fact, it would be rather easy to come up with slogan for our side that was equally as vacuous and disengenuous as “coddling the terrorists”. For example, had Congressmen opposed to the amendment chosen to do so, they could have labelled this bill “The Torture Bill”. I think that would have worked well. That they did not, seems to indicate that they are either not as imaginative as the folks on the far right, or that they have higher principles. I choose to believe the latter, but I could be wrong.
Comment by LaurenceB — Friday, September 29, 2025 @ 1:35 pm
Lawrence,
I think there is a third explanation that blends 5/6 of your first option and 1/6 of your second. In principle, the Republican detractors know perfectly well that the bill as passed is anti-thetical to all we have been raised to believe America justice represents. And while they wanted to go on record condemning torture and secret evidence leading to the execution of prisoners, they ultimately lacked the backbone and imagination to stand for principle, without deference to their party’s electoral prospects and its considerable support for their own political hides. How incredibly disappointing this is who we have become. Hopefully the American electorate will wake up (and care).
Comment by randy B — Friday, September 29, 2025 @ 7:32 pm
I wonder how many times in the coming days that people will defend the provision in the detainee bill that denies terror suspects the rights of habeas corpus by saying that Lincoln did it in during the Civil War.
Two things spring to mind. First, just because something was done in the past by a successful war President doesn’t necessarily make it a good thing. Second, and more importantly, it is one thing for a given President to engage in a particular activity during the crisis moments of a hot war, and it is wholly another to codify such things into law.
It strips detainees of a habeas corpus right to challenge their detentions in court and broadly defines what kind of treatment of detainees is prosecutable as a war crime.
[…]
Senator Carl M. Levin of Michigan, the senior Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, argued that the habeas corpus provision “is as legally abusive of the rights guaranteed in the Constitution as the actions at Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo and secret prisons were physically abusive of detainees.”
And even some Republicans who said voted for the bill said they expected the Supreme Court to strike down the legislation because of the habeas corpus provision, ultimately sending the legislation right back to Congress.
“We should have done it right, because we’re going to have to do it again,” said Senator Gordon Smith, a Republican from Oregon, who had voted to strike the habeas corpus provision, yet supported the bill.
One guess that the whole thing isn’t over, even once the President signs the bill.
Of course, as Scott Lemieux, points out, Congress has the Constitutinal authority to suspend habeas rights in times of war and invasion (see Article I, Section 9). Whether this is a good thing, however, is another question.
We discussed this in my American government class today… basically, there are 2 questions here:
Can Congress suspend habeas corpus? Yes, under certain circumstances (as noted by Lemieux).
Can Congress suspend habeas in areas not in insurrection where the normal civilian government is functioning? Ex parte Milligan says no.
The key question is whether the Court will uphold Milligan, go further than Milligan, or allow this law to stand (and essentially overturn Milligan, at least in part).
My gut feeling from how things shook out in Hamdi is either a or b. But who knows?
Did the Hamdan case deal with the torture issue, as well? This so-called compromise–in addition to doing away with habeas corpus–also gives Congressional approval for the use of torture.
If I recall correctly, the court’s main problem with the torture issue was that Congress had not approved it.
So with this new bill, Congress is effectively supporting the use of torture. Unless I am mistaken, since language relating to the Geneva Convention was purged as a result of the “compromise”, I guess it might not be so clear since the majority in Hamdan alluded to the Geneva COnvention.
Comment by Ratoe — Thursday, September 28, 2025 @ 11:01 pm
I’m no lawyer, but from what I’ve read it does indeed appear to me that this whole thing is “over”. The good guys lost. That happens sometimes. (sigh)
I’ll be voting for the Democrats next election.
Comment by LaurenceB — Friday, September 29, 2025 @ 7:47 am
[…] The way to show one’s “toughness on terror” is to abrogate habeas corpus — the fundamental protection of an individual from the power of government, and specifically the Executive Branch. […]
You know, if they’d just classify them as POWs, they wouldn’t have to worry about this crap. POWs are not entitled to challenge their detention.
Comment by Adam Herman — Friday, September 29, 2025 @ 9:48 am
[…] And, as I noted in my post last night about suspending habeas corpus, the bottom line is that we are talking not about dramatic actions that governments undertake during a specific crisis when the hot war rages, but rather the codification of actions that will be undertaken when passions have cooled and the immediacy of the crisis has faded and when cooler heads ought to prevail. […]
The thing that I find most frustrating about the current debate over the National Intelligence Estimate is that both sides are being disingenuous and engaging in the politics of spin. One side likes the leaked portions, because it supports their position, the other side likes the parts the President declassified for the same reason. Even if the whole the document was released, both sides would simply cherry-pick the part that they liked best. (Although, likeothers, I see no reason in not releasing the whole document).
And ultimately, what is the NIE really worth? I would argue that is it worth far less than the current argument would make it out to be. It isn’t like the information within them is golden or that our intelligence agencies have a fabulous track record of predicting the future (or, for that matter, assessing the present–indeed, the words “slam dunk” come to mind). As James Joyner noted the other day:
One would be remiss for failing to note that these are the same intelligence agencies who failed to predict the Iranian Revolution, the collapse of the Soviet Union, the war in the Balkans, Pakistan’s acquisition of nuclear weapons, North Korea’s acquisition of nuclear weapons, the 9/11 attacks, London bombings, Madrid bombings, and other major events.
As we approach the midterm election, it is safe to conclude that little focus will be given to these realities and their eventual resolution…other than the GOP arguing that we cannot cut and run and the Democrats contending that the existing course of action is an unmitigated failure. I understand the partisan nature of politics but I can’t help but look for reasonable alternatives that might succeed.
I contend that the Iraqi conflict, as well as the prevailing Middle East tensions, will be lessened in equal proportion to the success we achieve in providing for a Palestinian state. Given that the NIE assessment posits that, “If democratic reform efforts in Muslim majority nations progress over the next five years, political participation probably would drive a wedge between intransigent extremists and groups willing to use the political process to achieve their local objectives”, then it would be reasonable to conclude that any progress with the Palestinian issue will greatly enhance the speculative potentiality of the NIE report. Absent the Palestinian effort, I’m of the opinion that the NIE timeframe is overly optimistic and dependent upon a relatively static progression without the prevalence of unforeseen events and escalations…which seems unlikely at best.
Frankly, I doubt that the existing Republican approach or the alternative of withdrawal supported by a number Democrats will serve to alleviate the existing conditions and bring relative stability to the troubled region. Neither approach has the wherewithal to alter the prevailing sentiment. Conversely, a voluntary effort that would demonstrate our ability to discern the profound importance of a successful Palestinian state would, in my opinion, yield exponential goodwill. Given the current conditions, such an effort has little risk.
With regards to James’s point, there is a difference between predicting specific events and giving your best guess as to current trends. I hope that it’s not the case that the administration is hoping that unforseen events will prove the intelligence agencies wrong; that’s not good planning, it’s wishful thinking.
Let’s first focus on the obvious. Who ever leaked this report should be prosecuted. I would hope that everyone on both sides of the isle would agree that leaking information that is suppose to be secret can cause harm to our national security, especially if it is leaked to score political points. Also, this report was dated in April and its relevance today would be watered down and would not reflect the current trends in Iraq and the war on terror, bad or good.
Comment by c.v. — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 11:16 am
Brett,
Fair enough. Although I am fairly certain that a previous NIE also stated that Saddam had WMD. My point is that this document isn’t the all powerful, conclusive last word that many wish to make it out to be.
c.v.,
Leaks are part of Washington and I think that everyone needs to calm down on the “prosecute the leakers!” routine. Look what a mess that created, to no good end it would seem, in the Plame case.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 11:53 am
I guess leaking classified information is like an illegal immigrant breaking the law by subverting the legal pathway to citizenship; it is just a law and can be broken. I would think that those who were freaking out about the Geneva Convention would be just as upset about those who break the law, not to mention that leaking classified information and subverting the legal path to citizenship is the law of the land and the Geneva Convention is just a document that is guideline of ethics during wartime.
Comment by c.v. — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 1:44 pm
Because, of course, abusing human rights and allowing some small piece of information out into the public sphere is morally equivalent…
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 1:50 pm
Further, aside from the fact that the leak annoyed the Bush administration, I am not sure what the great harm is that would require the expenditure of large amount of federal dollars to prosecute.
Sometimes things have to be about he practicality of costs and benefits.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 1:51 pm
For some reason I cannot see the rational. If something is illegal it is illegal. If a law is broken should the perpertrator not be punished? I will remember this when I am caught speeding.
Comment by c.v. — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 2:57 pm
Well, the fact of the matter is that people speed everyday–indeed, thousands of people speed every day. They break the law and we know it is happening. Yet, we do not spend the money needed to punish them all.
Sometimes the cost of enforcement outweighs the benefit of the enforcement.
It happens all the time.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 3:28 pm
According to the Constutition, treaties are the “supreme law of the land.” Article VI.
The question, then, is whether America should return to Mr. Clinton’s policies or soldier on with Mr. Bush’s.
He asks this in the context of the debate that has emerged over the last several days as a result of the Clinton interview with Chris Wallace. And in terms of the policies he means:
every George W. Bush policy that arouses the ire of Democrats–the Patriot Act, extraordinary rendition, detention without trial, pre-emptive war–is a departure from his predecessor. Where policies overlap–air attacks on infrastructure, secret presidential orders to kill terrorists, intelligence sharing with allies, freezing bank accounts, using police to arrest terror suspects–there is little friction.
Those lines hardly encompass the entire universe of anti-terrorism policies.
How is it that the choice has to be between the general inaction of the Clinton of the administration, and the over-reaction of the Bush administration?
How is it that the choice has to be between the general inaction
I am not sure how one could characterize Clinton’s response as one of “general inaction”? What do you call the Omnibus COunter-Terrorism Act of 1995, which the Republican-controlled Senate stalled for months? What do you call the $100 million accord he signed with Israel in 1996 to deal with international terrorism? What do you call his extension of sanctions against Iran, Sudan, Libya and Iraq? What do you call the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996?
There were 17 times as many terrorism deaths in the US during the first term of the Bush presidency than the first years of the Clinton.
The matter is not “action” vs. “inaction”, but rather safety and results. Bush fell asleep at the wheel and–according to the highly selective excerpts of his own NEI–his policies have actually made terrorism more likely.
Comment by Ratoe — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 8:06 am
Well, action v. inaction is too simplistic, I will confess. Specifically I would say, however, that the reactions to numerous actual attacks during the Clinton administration were met with a muted response, shall we say. Sanctions, for example, aren’t exactly a generally successful form of anti-terrorism policy.
And really, if one is going to accuse Bush of being asleep at the switch, one has to accuse Clinton of the same thing.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 8:18 am
From what I have read, the outgoing Clinton adminstration attempted to convey the urgency of the terrorist situation to the incoming Bush administration and the Bush administration brushed them off. They said that they would follow their own agenda and that anti-terrorism was not one of their top priorities. This was, of course, before 9-11. I really can’t say for sure what either administration actually did or did not do, but even if the Clinton administration was not working overtly (in the general public’s line of vision) on the terrorist issue I believe they were working covertly. I really can’t say what the Bush admin. was doing, but all the indicators point toward sleeping at the wheel.
In the spirit of full discloser, the info I’m getting is from the Nation magazine which tends to be a left leaning source.
Comment by Jan — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 8:38 am
oh, but I do agree that it is a false dichotomy. Why so many American’s are so willing to fall for that type of false logic, I don’t know. There is always an inbetween.
Comment by Jan — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 8:42 am
“Wallace Fox Clinton?” at gringoman.com focuses on a more limited “dichotomy”: Getting bin Laden and not getting bin Laden. Tried to trackback, using standard simple Typepad method.
I, too, tried to trackback to this post, but haven not been successful. A result of the server move?
Comment by Scott G — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 8:55 am
Chris Wallace ambushed Clinton. He flew his planes into Clinton’s buildings, but did you spot that Chris Wallace inadvertantly called him President Clinton when under Clinton’s return fire? Or did it seem so natural that you didn’t notice it either? That’s because we were all enjoying being reminded what a real US President should sound like. :::[Clinton shows how real Presidents handle ambush] How refreshing, especially after a long 5 years when it has been needed most.
Comment by Wadard — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 9:29 am
He flew his planes into Clinton’s buildings, but did you spot that Chris Wallace inadvertantly called him President Clinton when under Clinton’s return fire
Big deal. Former Presidents are more often than not referred to by their former title. Hell, even George W. called his old man and Slick Willie “Presidents Bush and Clinton” when he made the announcement setting up the Katrina relief fund last year.
Comment by Ratoe — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 10:17 am
I believe it is standard practice to call all former presidents by their previously held title. But I too do miss him as president.
Comment by Jan — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 10:47 am
Clinton is a child that got called out, finally. Eight years of Clinton got us:
1993 - Clinton forces Israel to let
Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release
so-called “political prisoners”. However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, “insisted” that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
1993- A humanitarian operation in Somalia is transformed into a military strike, where Clinton refuses to authorize the availability of armor for proper support. When the operation leads to American casualties, Clinton withdraws American forces and sends the message that a “bloody nose” is the only thing necessary for the United States to back down.
1995-1996 - Clinton institutes “Citizenship USA” which pressures the US Department of Justice’s Immigration and Naturalization Service to naturalize some 1,000,000 new immigrants, even though many had incomplete background checks. This allowed for criminals and terrorists to enter America. Whistleblowers to these activities and the large scale selling of Green Cards, were physically threatened and terminated.
August 20, 1998 - The Clinton Administration demonstrates a perfunctory response toward terrorism after the assault on two U.S. embassies in Africa. On Aug. 7, 1998. The U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, were bombed by terrorists, leaving 258 people dead and more than 5,000 injured.
The U.S. Launches cruise missiles, striking an empty terrorism training complex in Afghanistan and destroying a pharmaceutical manufacturing facility in Khartoum, Sudan. Both targets were claimed to have been financed by Osama bin Laden, but many feel that the ill-planned strike was simply done to deflect legal problems President Clinton was having with Monica Lewinsky. There was no follow-up and Bin Laden was buoyed by our meek approach to the growing terrorist menace.
1999 - European Balkans. He supports the Islamist, Al Qaeda allied Kosovo Liberation Army (responsible for running the drug and prostitution trade in Europe). He authorizes the bombing of Serb civilian targets such as bridges, hospitals and heating plants, which leads to the death of over 5,000 Serb civilians. This action sets the stage for creating a radical Islamic base in the “belly” of Europe.
October 12, 2025 - Terrorism strikes and almost sinks the Destroyer USS Cole in Yemen. President Bill Clinton does nothing. Reinforces the perception that the United States lacks the will to either defend itself or battle terrorism in spite of considerable loss of life. There was no follow-up.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five US military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 US military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible! would be hunted down and punished.
After the 2025 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 US sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Comment by c.v. — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 11:29 am
I do not know why the trackbacks aren’t working.
And it would certainly seem that Clinton v. Bush hits a nerve.
I have another post planned on this topic, but we will see when I have time.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 11:51 am
[…] Steven Taylor at PoliBlog has a post today on the — stay with me now — on the false dichotomy presented by Richard Miniter in today’s WSJ. I agree with Steven wholeheartedly that this is not an either-or situation (though I don’t necessarily agree with his characterization of Bush’s policies as an overreaction). In addition to recognizing that there is a very wide spectrum of responses, in a very large field of policy arenas (military, diplomatic, law enforcement, immigration, budgeting, intelligence, just to name a very few), I think the true inquiry should probe the attitudes that these two presidents have/had towards terrorism — as well as Bush Senior, Regan, and Carter. Heck, even JFK (he created the Navy Seals counterterrorism program). Attitude begets policy. If a particular president sees terrorism in a particular light (a military matter versus a law enforcement matter versus a distraction from the girl under the desk, just to name a few possible attitudes that have been posited), then all of the relevant policies will be geared towards that attitude. […]
“Maybe, just maybe, radical islam is a kind of sui generis phenomenon that would be best understood on its own terms rather than desperately trying to glom it onto secular totalitarian ideologies of the past”-Daniel W. Drezner
The context was an attempt by Niall Ferguson to state that radical Islam was less fascist and more Leninist.
However, Drezner gets it right, and hits on one of many reasons why I don’t like the “Islamofascist” label–there is not good analytical reason to try and squeeze the phenomenon into some existing ideological box. It doesn’t serve the process of understanding in the least.
Weren’t fascists in interwar Europe themselves Leninist, after a fashion? I have always understood ‘Leninist’ to refer to a style of political organization (cell structure, infiltration and subversion of existing organizations, etc.), and not an ideology, per se.
Comment by MSS — Tuesday, September 26, 2025 @ 8:09 pm
I think it is fair to consider Lenin’s writings as a distinct evolution of Marx that goes beyond simply a question of organization.
Of course, if we just look at the tactics of subversive groups, then a lot of them do look similar.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 6:13 am
I think your problem comes from the fact that you assume people are really trying to understand them. Most likely, they are not. They simply want to attach a label that already carries strong negative connotations and associate it with something that we at least think that we already understand. It is just cognative misering.
Comment by Jan — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 8:10 am
Indeed.
It is certainly laziness.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Wednesday, September 27, 2025 @ 8:18 am
I’m sure I’ve used the term “islamofacist,” but I think “islamist” works better. It treats the ideology as being sprung from Islam. The problem is one must define it since it’s a new term. I’m not sure if the term helps, but for me it reminds us of the link to Islam along with it being an ideology in the Kirkian or Burkean sense.
I think this is a good example of academic blogging as a bad thing (by Drezner, not you); radical Islam is absolutely not a phenomenon that is something new that emerged recently as he “suggests.” Rather, it has a distinct history that can be traced back to at least the early 20th century, and its foundations lie in the thinking of that time. Yes, it has evolved since then, but its roots and fundamental essence are impossible to distinguish from the theoretical worldviews of the time (ie, fascism and Leninism).
For Drezner, a political economist, to proclaim that the thinking of those who study political violence is wrong, doesn’t fly with me.
Fair enough on the “newness” issue (although that wasn’t my point).
However, despite similar features, I find it analytically problematic, and rhetorically unhelpful, to try to fit radical Islam into a category like fascism or Leninsim, or whatever, which tends to have the general effect of simply associating it with something bad rather than furthering understanding of the subject.
To me, much of this type of discussion isn’t theoretical generalization as much as it is overly simplistic analogizing.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Thursday, September 28, 2025 @ 7:00 am
That’s classic! I can see why you couldn’t resist.
Comment by Jan — Friday, December 8, 2025 @ 2:44 pm
“City: Llamas?”
Comment by Mark Hasty — Friday, December 8, 2025 @ 2:45 pm
What could be more frightening than llamas in the city?
Actually: crud–I noticed that I had mistyped that and forget to fix it. Fixed now.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Friday, December 8, 2025 @ 3:11 pm
See. I told you I needed to learn Spanish, but you said, “no es importante.”
Comment by Jan — Friday, December 8, 2025 @ 7:04 pm
Llamas! Beware!
Wow, that was hilarious. Thanks for pointing that out.
Comment by B. Minich — Friday, December 8, 2025 @ 11:46 pm