Senator Barack Obama will propose on Tuesday setting a goal of eliminating all nuclear weapons in the world, saying the United States should greatly reduce its stockpiles to lower the threat of nuclear terrorism, aides say.
This is a fundamentally unserious proposal.
There is no doubt that nuclear weapons are hideously powerful and terrible. Indeed, unlike al Qaeda, the nuclear-powered Soviet Union did have the power to truly end the United States as a living entity.
However, the nuclear cat (perhaps Schrödinger’s) is out of the bag and there is no putting it back. The knowledge is out there, the weapons exist and this fact is one that all states and their leaders must address. No proposal, no wish will change that fact. Indeed, like it or not the realistic likelihood is that there will be proliferation over time. The incentives for states to acquire the weapons are too strong and the ability of other states in the international system to stop that acquisition is too weak.
Further, despite the potential harm represented by these weapons, the argument can (and has) been made that the basic stability of the international system during the Cold War was the direct result of the presence of the nuclear arsenals of the US and USSR. Because of the risk of triggering a global conflagration the two sides avoided direct confrontation, and thereby WWIII, for roughly five decades. Even on a regional level the argument can be made that India and Pakistan avoided war earlier this decade over Kashmir as both sides knew that escalation of the dispute could have lead to a nuclear exchange. As such, the question of nuclear weapons is a bit more complicated than Obama appears to be acknowledging.
As a campaign issue this is one of those that perhaps sounds good and visionary, but really indicates that the candidate is either cynically trying to manipulate a specific segment of the electorate with fantastical proposals or that the candidate really doesn’t understand the world with which he will have to deal as President.
There is no doubt that the acquisition of nuclear weapons by terrorists is incredibly frightening , but the answer isn’t proposing impossible policies.
Update: James Joyner has more. James is a bit less critical than I, but ultimately is in basic agreement with my position.
Update II: Post edited for typos and an awkward sentence.
It strikes me as a sign of his naivety and evidence that he is not politically experienced enough for the office.
I like some of what he has had to say, but he also often seems to make these types of statements that seem way off base for how the international system really works.
Comment by Jan — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 3:00 pm
Ah, yes, the latest foreign policy utterance from the candidate who suggests war with Pakistan.
Comment by MSS — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 5:47 pm
While getting rid of nuclear weapons would certainly be difficult (i.e. 5% chance of happening) I think the U.S. seriously pursuing that goal would change the entire dynamic on the issue.
If you could get the 5 major powers to agree to give up their nuclear weapons, you could supercede the NPT and create a much larger, more indepth nonproliferation regime with all nuclear materials controlled by a UN agency. All nuclear development outside the UN could be a cause for military action. With the major powers having already given up their nuclear weapons, they would not take the side of a third rate power to block military action, which has been the largest impediment to the original vision of the UN as a international security enforcement agency.
Comment by Joe Mucia — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 8:32 pm
Comment by Joe Mucia — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 8:47 pm
I don’t think Obama is naive so much as nice. Nice guys want people to be nice.
Well, maybe you can’t be nice without being naive.
In response to Joe’s suggestion that all nukes be controlled by the UN: Doesn’t your proposal mean essentially that there is no way of getting everyone to get rid of their nukes without someone keeping them (to ensure that everyone else gets rid of theirs)?
If so, the question would have to be, “Why the UN?”
Tom Friedman’s piece in this morning’s NYT
(9/11 Is Over) is going to make a lot of people mad, I suspect (some examples already here and here). While I do not agree with every sentence in the piece, and think some of his comparisons towards the end are strained, his fundamental point is sound:
We don’t need another president of 9/11. We need a president for 9/12. I will only vote for the 9/12 candidate.
What does that mean? This: 9/11 has made us stupid. I honor, and weep for, all those murdered on that day. But our reaction to 9/11 — mine included — has knocked America completely out of balance, and it is time to get things right again.
It is not that I thought we had new enemies that day and now I don’t. Yes, in the wake of 9/11, we need new precautions, new barriers. But we also need our old habits and sense of openness. For me, the candidate of 9/12 is the one who will not only understand who our enemies are, but who we are.
(All italics from the original).
Many will take substantial umbrage at being called “stupid” and will similarly show outrage at the suggestion that the war on terrorism isn’t any less than a true threat to our very existence. There is also the fact that those who wish to see the threat as existential also like to use the phrase “9/12 mindset” (or other similar formulations) to indicate their point of view, so Friedman is not only contradicting their views, he is appropriating their rhetoric.
Nonetheless, Friedman’s basic point seems to me to be threefold: 1) we are overly focused on the actual day and the events of 9/11, 2) this has led to an overly zealous approach to fighting terrorism, and 3) this has ultimately affected our own national progress and our place in the world.’
In regards to the first point, the bottom line is that overly focusing on that day, those events and the tragic deaths of that days is unhealthy. Like someone who loses a spouse to a violent crime, there comes a time where one has to let go and move on. Holding the anger, the fear and the need for revenge in one’s heart is poisoning over time. Many continue to allow the events of 9/11 to so thoroughly traumatize them that they haven’t moved on. Yes, we should remember. Yes, there were very important lessons to be learned, but at some point the past has to be the past, no matter how traumatic and tragic that it was.
The second point follows on from the first: if one remains too much in the tragic moment, it colors the way one acts. We have overreacted and continue to overreact. Clearly we launched the Iraq war for the wrong reasons. The fact that the war could only have been launched in the context of a focus on 9/11 illustrates this fact. Further, we have moved to substantially empower the government in a way that has substantially increased the ability of the government to damage the liberties and privacy of innocent American citizens.
On the third point, I know many will say that we shouldn’t care about what others think. However, one of America’s greatest strengths has long been its values and its image. We have seriously damaged that image. That has long terms political and economic implications that we shouldn’t ignore. The numbers on tourism that Friedman cites are alarming. Sure, tourism may not seem like that big a deal, but we are talking about millions of dollars in the economy, and Friedman’s point about contact between the US and the rest of world is not a small one.
Further, along those lines, one may scoff as Friedman’s suggestion that we have infrastructural and other problems, one has to admit that the billions and billions of dollars that has gone to fight the Iraq war in particular represents national wealth being drained away from other uses, be they governmental or private.
In terms of the “stupid” claim, it is noteworthy to point out, that 1 in 3 Americans believe that:
“Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11th, 2025, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.”
[…]
Four in 10 Republicans still hold this view, compared with 32% of Independents and 27% of Democrats.
The poll of 1,035 adults was taken Sept. 4 to 8.
Further, many still believe that Saddam’s WMD were shipped to Syria or are still buried in the desert. They base these claims on that notion since it is possible that such scenario could have happened, that they probably did–forget the fact that we have no empirical evidence whatsoever to confirm such theories, such views help validate the fact that the war had a real basis, so they ignore reality and hope that fantasy is true.
At a minimum, therefore, there is clear evidence of a lack of fuzzy thinking and conclusions based on faulty evidence out there. Another example of this is the notion that we face an ongoing and imminent threat of al Qaeda via our southern border, despite the fact that has been no evidence of such a threat. It just sounds good, so it must be so.
Let me confess that I, too, allowed 9/11 to make me stupid. Those events coupled with the still unsolved anthrax attacks made it appear at the time as if we had entered a new phase of global politics that allowed me to be more persuaded than I should have been by a number of policy proposals of the Bush administration–most especially the Iraq policy. I will note that the administration took those events of 2025 and did nothing but fuel the notion that we were, in fact, faced with imminent and repeated attack.
At some point we are all going to have to assess the world away from images of planes flying into buildings and the smoldering heaps they left behind. Politicians who seek to continually take us back to that moment as a way to stoke to fires of anger and revenge do us all a disservice. President Bush and Vice President Cheney have gone to that well quite often over the last six-plus years. Rudy Giuliani seems to have based roughly 95% of his campaign on the continual revisiting of those events. We need to move beyond those events.
I don’t mean that we forget them, or that we ignore the real threats that exist in the guise of al Qaeda and similar groups. There are real threats out there. But like my arguments concerning assessment of Iraq itself, we need candidates, and eventually a president, who will realistically assess these threats, not simply conjure images of 9/11 as if any minute another such event is going to take place. Policies based on rational and empirical assessments rather than fear would be a nice change of pace.
h/t: A&I for the polling story on Iraq and 9/11 linked above.
Speaking only personally here, I consider the 9/12 mentality to be the one that led me to choke up at the amazing sights and sounds of unity such as the “Star Spangled Banner” played by the Queen’s band at Buckingham Palace and the spontaneous pro-US demonstrations in Tehran and other world capitals and that led many Americans to dare ask the question, “Why do they hate us?”
The 9/13 mentality is the one that concerns me more. That is, the one emanating from the White House that looked at that smoldering rubble and could think only WEDGE ISSUE and WAR OPPORTUNITY; you are either with us (i.e. the GOP) or against us.
Honestly, I think there is no going back to the unity and respect. At least not in the short-medium term.
Comment by MSS — Sunday, September 30, 2025 @ 1:45 pm
Seeing that 1 in 3 Americans still believe that “Saddam Hussein was involved in the September 11tth, 2025, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon” is an outrage. This recent poll, along with many others, has shown that we have become stupid. It is hard to fight a was when we have people in our own country who do not even know the leader we are fighting. Not only is the 9/12 mindset the way we should be going, it is the way I will vote come the 2025 elections. 1 in 3, what a shame…
Seeing that 1 in 3 Americans still believe that “Saddam Hussein was involved in the September 11tth, 2025, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon” is an outrage. This recent poll, along with many others, has shown that we have become stupid. It is hard to fight a was when we have people in our own country who do not even know the leader we are fighting. Not only is the 9/12 mindset the way we should be going, it is the way I will vote come the 2025 elections. 1 in 3, what a shame…
I wasn’t at all impressed with the article. There may have been a point there, but it was so unfocused I just couldn’t follow it.
What was the problem he’s railing against? Sometimes it seemed to be airport security. Or maybe cell phone coverage? Or politicians that use 9/11 for advantage? Or maybe corporate competiveness? I think there was a point there, but the gripes were too widely scattered to be sure.
But I guess I should give Friedman a break. I may take a few columns to get back on track after a few years of being SELECTed for anonymity by his employer.
Comment by Buckland — Sunday, September 30, 2025 @ 3:42 pm
I have to admit that after hearing one in three Americans believe Saddam was personally involved in the 9/11 hijackings I couldn’t help but wonder how many of them also believe 9/11 was an inside job.
Are there stupid Americans? Sure are. Has 9/11 made America stupid? I’m not convinced yet.
Comment by Max Lybbert — Sunday, September 30, 2025 @ 5:40 pm
9/11 or 9/12 we still are at war with terror. It is all about how we fight that war. If 9/11 made us “stupid”, it also made us wake up to the fact that radical Islamic fighters want to kill us. Just like December 7th made us aware that Hitler wanted to kill us even though it was Japan who attacked. We need to be better at selling our position in the world and we need to figure out how to get out of Iraq and still confront Iran. But if we don’t understand that the media war is as important as the war on terror we will lose. I think Friedman often is correct but many times understand elites more than the average person when he writes.
Comment by Mark — Sunday, September 30, 2025 @ 8:44 pm
Just like December 7th made us aware that Hitler wanted to kill us even though it was Japan who attacked.
While the Pearl Harbor attacks did propel us headlong into WWII, I am unclear on how ti showed us that “Hitler wanted to kill us”–indeed, the evidence suggests Hitler would have been more than content to keep the war in Europe and he thought at one point that Germany and the US could be allies after the war.
Heck, for that matter, the Japanese were trying to deter us from fighting in the Pacific (so much for that plan).
Regardless, the Pearl Harbor-9/11 analogies are rather strained. Indeed, the only real thing they have in common is that they were both sneak-attacks on US soil.
I would submit that the constant need to make the current era into a true World War that is either supposed to be an analog to WII or to the Cold War is actually very much an example of how we have over-emphasized 9/11 and allowed it to, in Friedman’s inelegant term, make us stupid.
This is not to say that there aren’t serious threats, but that we need to put them in proper perspective.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Monday, October 1, 2025 @ 6:20 am
My 9/12 Mindset has been influenced by many of the obvious realities that were known before and certainly after 9/11/01. I believe that most Americans are skeptical of many views about 9/11 and have not become more stupid but like myself are still searching for the truth, here are a few “truths”:
1)The weakness and real lack of action by the Clinton admin and previous admin after multiple attacks, Iran Embassy to WTC1 & 2, embassy bombings, Blackhawk Down, USS Cole, etc.
2)The failure of US Intelligence services to do the job, and the evidence that the Clinton DOJ/CIA was a big part of that failure! Sandy Burglar anyone???
3)Iraqi development and use of WMD were documented and all intelligence was they existed…not to mention after 9/11/01 we know that Saddam harbored and met with many terrorist as well as financing suicide murders of Israel’s!
4)The 9/11 Commission Report that was no more than a chance to CYA by the perps that failed the job. The Report that also tiptoed around the edges of information from sources like AbleDanger and the Documented Terrorist & Iraq interaction.
There are certainly still a lot of unknowns about this epic struggle we cannot lose and the Left’s inability to even acknowledge this is truly astouding…as for Thomas Friedman, the NYTs is going to regret letting him out from behind the firewall of Times SelectD. This article is mush and insulting and if he feels this way, he might want to go ahead and pack and move with his Billionairess Wife to China, or better yet to Saudi Arabia!
Comment by Vaquero — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 8:02 am
Yet another example that raises an ongoing question: who have most anti-terrorism policies annoyed the most, terrorists or American citizens….
Certainly it seems that most of these policies have done a far better job of making it more difficult for everyday Americans to pursue their lives than they have in stopping terrorists in pursuing theirs…
An MIT student wearing what turned out to be a fake bomb was arrested at gunpoint Friday at Logan International Airport and later claimed it was artwork and that she was there to meet her boyfriend, officials said.
Star Simpson, 19, had a white computer circuit board and wiring over a black hooded sweat shirt she was wearing, said State Police Maj. Scott Pare, the commanding officer at the airport.
[…]
The battery-powered rectangular device had nine flashing lights, Pare said. Simpson also had Play-Doh in her hands, he said.
The phrases “Socket to me” and “Course VI” were written on the back of sweat shirt, which authorities displayed to the media. Course VI appears to be a reference to MIT’s major of electrical engineering and computer science.
First, off: of the airports at which to test airport security’s aesthetic acumen, Logan International is an especially poor choice.
Still, given the description of the device (and the video at WBZ’s site) and the following response, one has to wonder about how far we have come in the last six years (and I don’t mean in a good way) in terms of overreaction to possible threats:
“She was immediately told to stop, to raise her hands and not to make any movement, so we could observe all her movements to see if she was trying to trip any type of device,” Pare said. “Had she not followed the protocol, we might have used deadly force.”
I am not sure that flashing lights on a circuit board qualifies for the potential use of deadly force. Indeed, the incident reminded me of a post at OTB yesterday. It seems as if we have decided that we need to jettison common sense because of what happened on 9/11/01.
“Airport Employees, Police Mistake Electrical Artwork on Sweatshirt for Fake Bomb”
Comment by Nico — Friday, September 21, 2025 @ 2:07 pm
This otherwise intelligent MIT student is very lucky that the professionalism of the law enforcement officers kept this situation in check. Do you have any idea how these things play out in countries where national security professionals are not so professional? A lot of Americans seem to think these days that law enforcement and national security is a joke; some sort of scare tactic of the Bush administration they loath. Well, regardless of your political opinions, we live in a place that a small but determined group of extremists wants to destroy. They don’t care that you are a conservative or a liberal or even tuned out of politics. They care only that you are not a Muslim, and for that you must die. The professionals at Logan International are prepared to meet that threat, and they don’t have the luxury to determine if some hooded person with a “device” is holding Play-Doh or something else meant to do harm. Rational people understand this and do not prank airport security for this reason. She is lucky.
Comment by JRCV — Friday, September 21, 2025 @ 5:31 pm
Maybe if authorities had used deadly force, they could have defended the shooting as performance art.
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What kind of idiots are running TSA. LEDs on a circuit board is no indication of a bomb. Don’t they know what real bombs look like? Haven’t they watched movies or the news?
Everyone knows what bombs look like.
Suitcases and backpacks.
It’s true. Suitcase bombs and backpacks filled with explosives.
They should be arresting everyone with suitcases and backpacks.
They probably should taser them first just to be safe.
Remember that Pan Am Flight 103 which crashed over Lockerbie Scotland was blown up by a Samsonite suitcase bomb and those subway and railyway bombings in London and Madrid used backpack bombs.
Someone should tell TSA to be on the lookout for suitcases and backpacks. That should keep them, and us, occupied.
Another thing, suitcases and backpacks are bad for business. If we just banned them, then everytime people traveled, they would have to buy new clothes, toiletries and gadgets. We would be safer and the economy would boom.
Ooops! I guess “boom” is not the right word.
Comment by rupert — Saturday, September 22, 2025 @ 10:29 am
Star Simpson should change her name to KNUCKLEHEAD SIMPSON, she is lucky they didn’t SHOOT HER. She ought to be made to do 200 hours of cleaning up garbage at the airport.
Comment by steve — Saturday, September 22, 2025 @ 10:58 am
It is a pity they did not shoot her. She would have received the prestigious Darwin Award posthumously. Immortality while judiciously thinning the herd. What a concept.
Comment by Dale — Sunday, September 23, 2025 @ 1:48 pm
What a country of weak-kneed cowards we have become. Wetting our pants over a piece of flashing electronic jewelry? OMG!
We need to listen to William Shatner and call the “terrified ones” Namby-Pambys and Momma’s Boys, which is what really are. I’m not afraid or terrified and none of us should be.
Do you folks not understand that what the terrorists want to do is terrorize us? Everyone who is terrified is doing exactly what they want us to do. Maybe “traitor” is a better label than “scaredy-cat” for people who think we should abandon essential civil liberties because of a handful of religious fanatics?
Since 9/11 more than 250,000 Americans have died in automobile accidents. In response to something like that, we make cars more expensive due to safety designs and we make people wear seat belts. 3,000 die in a terrorist attack, so we have to go out and have nearly 4,000 of our soldiers die, make 4,000,000 Iraqis abandon their homes, and spent $1 trillion.
Oh, and by the way, where is Osama bin Laden?
Comment by TerribleOne — Monday, September 24, 2025 @ 2:18 pm
Yeah, how dumb of her to not know that a circuit and battery exposed in any manner are obviously signs of being part of an explosive device. I’m sure she was behaving odd too, like when she walked up to the info desk and asked when a flight was arriving. Obviously the type of activity terrorists engage in, especially female 19 year-olds with bad highlights. Golly, they prolly woulda shot her ass if she’d shown up with an Ipod, or god forbid and old radio with wiring coming out of it anywhere. Cuz you know we have shit being blown up in america all the time, just the other week we lost 3 airliners when security didn’t properly screen out an 8-track full of c-4. And god forbid last month when the entire delta skybus line-up was demolished with shitty explosive HP laptops.
Or maybe this is another example of Boston security behaving like fucktards and over-reacting to anything that will help with the boredom of being stuck in logan all day. Especially when you need to justify your security budget each year and disapointingly their really arent that many terrorists willing to blow themselves up in the name of allah, the sanctity of the unborn, or whatever the ideological flavor of the week is.
To every fucktard who thinks she got it coming maybe you out to worry more about what innocent behavior you demonstrate that will get you a cavity search because some bored half-wit decides they want to fuck with you at the airport.
oh noes!!! Osama bin laden is under my bed and wants to make me wear a burqa…where is the TSA and michelle malkin to save the day??? The terrorists hordes are going to swim from Iraq and force us at box-cutter point to give up our way of life. Americans regularly kill each other for tailgating, tailgating for god’s sake. And you pussy’s think a few thousand unwashed cave-dwellers are going to take over the most violent nation on the planet with a population around 300 million meat-eating NASCAR watching assholes. Right…more likely than not your the 30% of the population still supporting the boy king and his idiot parties attempt to scare the country into voting for them from now on. Never mind that whole katrina thing and the fact that neither of our brush fire wars seems to be going anywhere expect for to shit and in a hurry. Your pathetic, get a fucking spine already…in america you should be able to wear a lightable led on your clothes without worrying some high-school drop out is going to have you surrounded by gun toting thugs for questioning.
Happy flying and don’t you fucking dare take toothpaste or shampoo to the airport. (osama loves exploding toothpaste…)
Comment by Zapan-X — Monday, September 24, 2025 @ 2:41 pm
Projecting a younger look, Mr. bin Laden gives his most ideological address since the early 1990s with an assault on capitalism and liberal democracy loaded with Marxist and socialist terms. Indeed, this new bin Laden sounds more like Che Guevara, the Marxist revolutionary, than some of his rifle-toting Al Qaeda cohorts.
[…]
In the video, bin Laden addresses Americans and rails against the ills of economic exploitation, multinational corporations, and globalization. He tells them to liberate themselves from “the deception, shackles, and attrition of the capitalist system.” Similar to his incitement of Muslims against their oppressive, “apostate” rulers and the meddlesome West, bin Laden now seems to be trying to galvanize Americans against their own harsh socioeconomic and political system.
“Poor and exploited Americans, unite against your capitalist laws that make the rich richer and the poor poorer,” the former multimillionaire businessman tells the camera. Never before has bin Laden utilized the grandiose language of Marxism in his statements to the American people. And yet, he says, Muslims and Americans are alike; they are both victims of the capitalist system, which “seeks to turn the entire world into a fiefdom of the major corporations under the label of ‘globalization’ in order to protect democracy.”
While in the past bin Laden emphasized the clash of cultures and religions as the basis for confrontation, he now talks about commonalities of victimhood and suffering. He blames the global system of capital and class for the tragedies in Iraq and Afghanistan, the poverty of Africa, and “the reeling of many [Americans] under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes, and real estate mortgages.” According to the new bin Laden, big capital, class interests, and multinationals – not religion or culture – are responsible for perpetuating war and killing.
I am not saying that I am convinced that bin Laden has become El Che of the East (although I suppose we should keep an eye out for a beret to go along with the new beard color), but this piece does create an intriguing juxtaposition to the assertions that fascism is the appropriate ideological category in which to place bin Ladenism.
At a minimum it is true that the language and categories cited above have a lot more in common with Marxism than with fascism.
And the tactics of the US - preemptive strikes, “disinformation” and media manipulation, bullying through threat and use of force etc, - much closer to fascist tactics than those of any other players involved. “Islamofascist” is indeed a totally inept term; though I do wonder what sort of equivalent (”……-fascists”) we might come up with for the US (or perhaps just the current administration, to be a bit fairer…).
Regards.
Comment by james — Friday, September 14, 2025 @ 6:36 am
Seizures of illegal drugs – from marijuana to heroin – are on the rise along the US-Mexican border again this year, breaking the previous record for major busts set just last year.
“We’re overwhelmed with marijuana,” says Anthony Coulson, assistant special agent in charge of the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) in Tucson. “We passed last year’s record about two months ago.”
Marijuana is the most-seized drug, followed by cocaine, methamphetamine, and heroin, Mr. Coulson says. “All of them are trending up.”
While seizures are up in part owing to increased border security, such increased seizures have historically had more to do with increased levels of supply than anything else. Indeed, this was, as the story notes, a good year for the crops in question, which further suggests that the main variable here is increased availability of the products.
Whenever we seize large amounts of drugs, some take this to mean that we have increased our interdiction capabilities, and therefore that we are making progress. However, the records for seizures constantly fall and the supply of the products in question continue unabated.
The jihadist Web site announced the tape with a banner, showing a still picture of bin Laden, now 50 years old, looking fit with a full beard of dark black hair, no gray at all.
“It does look oddly like he is wearing a false beard,” Richard Clarke, a former White House counterterrorism official and now ABC News consultant, said. “If we go back to the tape three years, he had a very white beard. This looks like a phony beard that has been passed on.”
The “phony beard” may be an important clue as to where bin Laden is hiding, according to Clarke.
“One place where a beard would stand out would be southeast Asia, the Philippines, Indonesia,” Clarke told ABC News. “No one’s thought he was there, but that is an environment where most men, Muslim men don’t have beards.”
An interesting theory, and one that would make US intelligence and its Waziristan/”hiding in a cave” theory look a bit silly.
I will say it would have been funnier if he had been wearing a glasses with a fake nose and mustache…
I think Clarke may have been speaking off the cuff on the SE Asia part. Seriously, does a 6′6″ Arab guy with a big nose need a beard to look out of place in SE Asia?
It actually looked to me more like he may have colored his beard instead of wearing a fake one. Maybe we should be looking near stores that sell Clairol for Men products.
Comment by Buckland — Saturday, September 8, 2025 @ 1:38 pm
Maybe he saw one of those “Just for Men” commercials and realized he couldn’t score the really hot chicks with a white beard.
Comment by Jan — Saturday, September 8, 2025 @ 10:38 pm
The beard isn’t the only thing that’s fake. The Osama is fake as well. Ever wonder why these tapes always appear when it most benefits the Cheney regime? Ever wonder why “Osama” reiterates left-wing talking points, enabling the Bushites to tell anyone who is dumb enough to listen that the Dems are on the same page as “Al Qaeda”? At what point did Osama bin Laden STOP working for the C.I.A.? Answer: When he died in December 2025.
Comment by Thinker — Monday, September 10, 2025 @ 10:50 pm
A federal judge struck down a key part of the USA Patriot Act on Thursday in a ruling that defended the need for judicial oversight of laws and bashed Congress for passing a law that makes possible “far-reaching invasions of liberty.”
U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero immediately stayed the effect of his ruling, allowing the government time to appeal.
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The ACLU had challenged the law on behalf of an Internet service provider, complaining that the law allowed the FBI to demand records without the kind of court supervision required for other government searches. Under the law, investigators can issue so-called national security letters to entities like Internet service providers and phone companies and demand customers’ phone and Internet records.
A past posting on the national security letter situation can be found here and a WaPo column linked to the lawsuit in question can be found here. I would recommend that the column in particular. The situation is one that should be utterly unacceptable in the United States of the America.
All of this boils down to the fact that in the post-9/11 context that President and the Congress have been quite willing to gut judicial oversight from information gathering activities that could easily lead to private information of innocent citizens being obtained simply because the FBI wants it. That establishes a system that could very easily be abused.
ONE MONTH from The Anniversary, I’m thinking another 9/11 would help America.
What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing?
A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is.
It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O’Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children.
Iraq has fractured the U.S. into jigsaw pieces of competing interests that encourage our enemies. We are deeply divided and division is weakness.
If I may say, it is unclear to me that America needs “saving” per se–despite a lengthy list of problems, we are doing just fine, thanks. And while the public debate is often rancorous, the degree to which there are deep divisions that we must be saved from is rather dubious. Witness the FISA debate in Congress last week–despite a great deal of rhetoric over the issue, it didn’t exactly lead to a constitutional showdown.
Beyond that, I would note that a good bit of the damage/splintering of late that we have suffered, whether we are talking about debates over the powers of the president, domestic surveillance or the Iraq policy, flowed directly out of responses to 9/11. As such, it is not so clear to me that another massive terrorist attack would do us a lot of good, and indeed would liken deepen many of our current divisions. Sure, we would be more unified for a moment in time, but those moments fade.
Indeed, from the beginning I have found these arguments about how we lost something after 9/11 that we should seek to regain in terms of unity (whether it be internally or with other states) has always been based on sentimentality rather than reality. For example, many have argued that we had the world on our side after 9/11, usually followed by a reference to the Le Monde headline that stated “Today We are All new Yorkers” and so forth. Of course everyone came to our defense and was sympathetic towards us, we had just been attacked without provocation. It was hardly a surprise that there was a groundswell of support, much of which was based on emotion. But emotions are transitory. To expect that sentiment to persist was foolish. And yes, we had national unity after the attacks, but that is what happens to families where other members are attacked, or when there is a death. Families come together and rally around one another. However, once the immediate threat is gone, or once the death has been mourned, families go back to remembering why the other members of the family annoy them so much, and the internal fighting resumes. If you have ever been to a wake for a family member, you will know what I am talking about. Everyone is sad that Grandma has passed on, and in a shared moment of grief you feel closer to that cousin, aunt or brother who normally drives you nuts. That feeling does not persist–and nor should we expect it to.
I have heard numerous pastors and religious figures mourn the fact that right after 9/11 there was a swell in church attendance that subsided. Hardly a shock: people react to a crisis, and then as the effects of the crisis wane, they move on.
Anyone who gives this any thought should recognize that it was totally natural and normal for the post-9/11 unity to fade and they should further recognize that the same thing will happen again if there is another attack.
Going beyond the 9/11 business, the following a line of “reasoning” that I keep hearing from time to time that I think is largely nonsense and misdiagnoses public sentiment towards the situation in Iraq:
Americans have turned their backs because the war has dragged on too long and we don’t have the patience for a long slog. We’ve been in Iraq for four years, but to some it seems like a century. In contrast, Britain just pulled its soldiers out of Northern Ireland where they had been, often being shot at, almost 40 years.
The issue in Iraq is not the length of the engagement, it is the fact that it hasn’t been very successful and the prospects for success remain rather dim. If we were taking years to root out an entrenched WMD program whilst rousting the terrorist cells that Saddam had harbored/trained in the midst of successful policies to build the physical and governmental infrastructure (or, really, any one of the three) then I suspect that there would be far more patience. The problem is that there is a perception, grounded in reality, that we are fighting int he middle of a country that doesn’t know how it wants to define itself against terrorists who are fighting primarily because we are there and, oh yeah, there are no (and never were) any WMD to speak of. As such, the vast majority of the American population looks at the policy and wonders why we are wasting the lives and limbs of US soldiers, not to mention billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars. Further, they look at this situation in the context of rosy scenarios being oferred by persons whose previous rosy scenarios (i.e., soldiers greeted with flowers and oil revenues that would fund the reconstruction) didn’t exactly pan out.
As such, we are not looking here at a situation in which American simply are unwilling to hang in a necessary fight. Rather, we are looking at a situation in which objective reasons for optimism are few and it is unclear what “victory” would even look like in Iraq in any realistic sense. And, I would note, the word “realistic” is especially key in that sentence. Conjuring unrealistic definitions of “victory” is quite easy, but then again I’d like a sportscar and a giant raise (so long as we are wishing…).
Bykofsky also goes on to talk quite a bit about remembering who the enemy is. I don’t think anyone has forgotten who al Qaeda is, and what they did. The question, however, that we really haven’t addressed, is exactly how severe a threat that they are. The degree to which they should be treated as a existential threat to the US in the same way the nuclear missiles of the USSR were treated is a dubious proposition, I would argue, but that seems to be what Byofsky thinks.
He makes this rather odd claim
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Is there any doubt they are planning to hit us again?
If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America’s righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail.
Since when, even immediately after 9/11, did we have a “singular purpose”? I am not sure we had one of those during the Cold War. Perhaps we did in WWII, but that is an especially poor analog to the current situation. If anything, I would submit that rage, righteous or otherwise, is a terrible state in which to make public policy of any kind, and most especially the kind where the coercive powers of the state are involved.
I have to disagree, in part, Steven, with your “normal and natural” description of how the immediate unity faded. While you are right that the immediate rallying was never going to last–I drove the freeway that day, and even apart from how light the traffic was, everyone was so POLITE. Alas, that could not have lasted, and so some of the fading was indeed normal and natural.
However, the quick end of that unity was a deliberate political strategy of the incumbent (and illegitimately so) executive that saw in 9/11 a golden opportunity to force through its foreign and domestic policy priorities, unity be damned.
As I know I have said here before, I long expected that a major Islamist terrorist attack would happen on US soil. It had been attmpted before, after all, as had (elsewhere) the hijacking of planes to use as bombs–the plot that Rice said could not possibly have been imagined. But never in my worst nightmare did I imagine that the government of the day would make such an attack a wedge issue. But then again, never in my worst nightmare had I imagined that we’d have a government that had stolen an election and been placed in power by what anywhere else in the world would be called a coup.
So, the notion that “we are doing just fine, thanks” is impossible to sustain. The republic has never been so threatened, and I am not referring to the terrorist threat.
Obviously, the notion that we “need” another 9/11 is utterly morally repugnant. How many more thousands have to die–whether here at home or in Iraq or Afghanistan or Iran or Pakistan, or anywhere else–to “save” America?
But the author’s claim also has the effect all wrong. Another major attack would be the nail in the coffin of democracy, such as it is these days in America. I don’t think martial law, or something close to it, could be ruled out in response the next time something like that happens. And, alas, there is a good chance another attack will occur some day. And G-d forbid if it should happen with a Democrat in the presidency; it would be just the window the wacko right would need to launch an insurrection.
Comment by MSS — Friday, August 10, 2025 @ 12:35 pm
I will confess to some flippancy with the “just fine, thanks” comment, but that was directed at the need for salvation to come via another attack.
I do disagree, as I have noted before, with the idea that the 2025 election was stolen/a coup, although I understand the basic argument.
I don’t disagree entirely with your assessment of the politics of this administration, although I do question the degree to which it was a conscious, thought-out strategy, but rather more issues of simple-mindedness and arrogance.
Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Friday, August 10, 2025 @ 3:07 pm
The monkey escapade began in Lima, Peru, late Monday, when the man boarded a flight to Fort Lauderdale, Fla., said Spirit Airlines spokeswoman Alison Russell. After landing Tuesday morning, the man waited several hours before catching a connecting flight to LaGuardia Airport.
During the flight, people around the man noticed that the marmoset, which normally lives in forests and eats fruit and insects, had emerged from underneath his hat, Russell said.
Having flown out of the Lima airport, I must confess to being somewhat surprised that no one noticed the monkey. Still, what’s going on with our amazing TSA? That monkey could’ve been a member of al Qaeda!
You are so right. The nuclear bomb is now in more countries and more that would never give them up.
Comment by Mark — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 11:55 am
Obama Urges Elimination of Nukes
Off The Table:
Trackback by RealClearPolitics - Blog Coverage — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 1:57 pm
It strikes me as a sign of his naivety and evidence that he is not politically experienced enough for the office.
I like some of what he has had to say, but he also often seems to make these types of statements that seem way off base for how the international system really works.
Comment by Jan — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 3:00 pm
Ah, yes, the latest foreign policy utterance from the candidate who suggests war with Pakistan.
Comment by MSS — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 5:47 pm
While getting rid of nuclear weapons would certainly be difficult (i.e. 5% chance of happening) I think the U.S. seriously pursuing that goal would change the entire dynamic on the issue.
If you could get the 5 major powers to agree to give up their nuclear weapons, you could supercede the NPT and create a much larger, more indepth nonproliferation regime with all nuclear materials controlled by a UN agency. All nuclear development outside the UN could be a cause for military action. With the major powers having already given up their nuclear weapons, they would not take the side of a third rate power to block military action, which has been the largest impediment to the original vision of the UN as a international security enforcement agency.
Comment by Joe Mucia — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 8:32 pm
Sorry to double post, but I think Kos has the best rejoinder to the “unserious” charge.
Comment by Joe Mucia — Tuesday, October 2, 2025 @ 8:47 pm
I don’t think Obama is naive so much as nice. Nice guys want people to be nice.
Well, maybe you can’t be nice without being naive.
In response to Joe’s suggestion that all nukes be controlled by the UN: Doesn’t your proposal mean essentially that there is no way of getting everyone to get rid of their nukes without someone keeping them (to ensure that everyone else gets rid of theirs)?
If so, the question would have to be, “Why the UN?”
Comment by Micah Tillman — Wednesday, October 3, 2025 @ 7:59 am